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Manager Thomas Frank

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Are you Frank Out or In?

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ChrissyWaddleShares said:
100% both things may be true. I think that pragmatism (and let's be honest, this was Conte and Mourinho, too) can be either positive - let's go and try to play the 'best' football (Poch with Winks, Sissoko, Trippier vs Walker, Dele's brother) - or negative - let's not give away silly goals, sit back, try and play safe passes and get the ball into the opposition box as quickly and safely as possible (long throws, long balls).

One we prefer to have in our club, one we don't. I think they're both results of the same poor standard of squad. The issue we have rn is that moving the ball quickly forward leaves us with no-one who can hold it up or score. FWIW, Son would also have failed as he never had the physical presence for this ugly football.

If we change manager, we need one that will appease the fans by trying to make the most of the faulty components and play actual football - but we also need to be well-and-truly aware that we won't suddenly be able to pass to our own team, or run any faster, or move into space because that is who these players are right now.

Hopefully, next manager will be more in line with what we hope and gets better backing from the board.

Sadly, we have the rest of this season to endure - whatever happens.
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Agreed, but I would add the caveat that in terms of recruitment- Frank was backed far more than most of his predecessors.

On paper - Kudus, Simons, Pahlinha and Kolo Muani is one of the strongest windows we should have had.

On a personal level I had massive reservations on 3/4 of them, but still, 2 of them had prem experience, they had an average age of 25-26 and all of them have at least 30 international caps. When was the last time that we did that?

I’m not expecting a Pochettino to magically transform certain players. I’m expecting him to similar to what he did before. Set a positive tone. See who fits, who doesn’t. Dip into the academy to attempt to find a solutions. Intergrate some of the young players we’ve sent out on loan. And most importantly, have the right idea of the style of player he needs.

Unlike Frank, Pochettino acknowledges that passing through the middle of the pitch is needed for a start. He also wouldn’t leave Porro on an Island defensively (Sissoko/Tripper).

Nobody is pretending the squad is great, and the use that logical fallacy is seriously annoying me.
 
TeamSpirit™ said:
Agreed, but I would add the caveat that in terms of recruitment- Frank was backed far more than most of his predecessors.

On paper - Kudus, Simons, Pahlinha and Kolo Muani is one of the strongest windows we should have had.

On a personal level I had massive reservations on 3/4 of them, but still, 2 of them had prem experience, they had an average age of 25-26 and all of them have at least 30 international caps. When was the last time that we did that?

I’m not expecting a Pochettino to magically transform certain players. I’m expecting him to similar to what he did before. Set a positive tone. See who fits, who doesn’t. Dip into the academy to attempt to find a solutions. Intergrate some of the young players we’ve sent out on loan. And most importantly, have the right idea of the style of player he needs.

Unlike Frank, Pochettino acknowledges that passing through the middle of the pitch is needed for a start. He also wouldn’t leave Porro on an Island defensively (Sissoko/Tripper).

Nobody is pretending the squad is great, and the use that logical fallacy is seriously annoying me.
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The squad is 6-10th.

Frank has to go.
 
arngspurs said:
This is the most worrying thing about the whole situation. How can you have a search as “thorough” as this and get it - not just wrong - they probably can’t have done any worse.

I’ve got no faith that they’ll time the frank sacking right, or make the right appointment next. Vinai is good at one thing though - corporate bollocks.
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100%!
Said this so many times Hdf did Frank come out on top of whatever their metrics were out of the 30 or so candidates. Is he better than irola, glassner (who has one trophies), de zirbi, etc. Was winning a trophy in the metrics.
As for good at developing young players he binned ALL of our academy players. Not one was kept to be worked on. This includes send the young Croat and Yang out again. Yet we have davies a one yr ext, kept tel and Wilson who plainly not good enough. He has not improved them
Much btw. Whole appointment a d selection process was a joke and total bs. I’d like to know who else was on their list so that we can compare their qualities to franks. Never wanted Frank but thought based on what everyone was force feeding us was that he was a better coach than Ange, would have have us far more organised and set up better. Plainly not!
 
Was there a lot of verbals between him and Romero towards end of game??
Romeros form is very patchy, same way it was under contes second season and it was said if conte stayed Romero would leave.
Does look like he's lost Romero and you can't afford to lose your captain
 
Our home form is so bad we deserve to be relegated.

Might be the best thing for us. To get these cunts out of the Club.

But make no mistake if they keep Frank and we go down its 100% the boards fault.
 
Sidford said:
Was there a lot of verbals between him and Romero towards end of game??
Romeros form is very patchy, same way it was under contes second season and it was said if conte stayed Romero would leave.
Does look like he's lost Romero and you can't afford to lose your captain
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Romero looked like he either refused to be subbed off or refused to let someone else be subbed, as Danso was ready to come on and after Romero screamed at Frank Danso was told to sit back down.
 
Most of the players will now only turn it on 100% for the champions league games. With most of them off to the world cup. They aren't going to bust their balls to finish 14th vs 17th.

It's going to get much worse in the league.
 
Blanchflower said:
Romero looked like he either refused to be subbed off or refused to let someone else be subbed, as Danso was ready to come on and after Romero screamed at Frank Danso was told to sit back down.
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He's too weak. Saw that after Romeros comments after Bournemouth, whatever you think of them, it shouldnt have just been a nice chat and let him off. Frank and Lange just have no authority about them at all and players know this and take the piss
 
Notabadsquad said:
AGREED.

Frank must get sacked immediately. Not one game more. His continued presence is crushing us.

We have become the embodiment of the next game. Postecoglou and now Frank.

Fcuk that shit.

It's way past the point of no return.
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When we lose on Tuesday, can you imagine what it’s going to be like in that stadium if he is still in the job? The powers that be have to realise that it will be beyond toxic and nothing like what we have seen so far.

Honestly, he has to go today or tomorrow to give us any chance in that match. February is also a hard month, but it is also a great opportunity for anyone coming in to get this group of players to put in some good performances against top teams and if we have any luck at all, getting a win in one of those matches at least.
 
brumspur said:
Get the fucking fraud out of our club a total and utter embarrassment
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And all 30 of hi back room team with their iPads, clipboards and such. All starting at that and talking to each other instead of concentrating on the shit out there. With all that analysis on the touchline how comes they can’t make quick decisions to change the game. Why sometimes it takes till half time to get the players to play with more urgency in 2nd half. Surely it should be easy enough to tell from touchline to pass quicker, run more etc. all stealing a living I’d love a job like that!
 
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