Wait, are we now excluding the 2008 League Cup as a major trophy
Did 2019 not happen in South wales?
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Wait, are we now excluding the 2008 League Cup as a major trophy
Did 2019 not happen in South wales?
Believe Harry7 made that claim.
HAHA wasnt him that got to the final though was it? Believe that was Poch and the players, no?
Are the failures not on the managers and players then?
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didnt say anything to the contrary. the players and Poch are equally to blame. I havent imploded. not yet, see what happens after tonight, then I may be there
lol that bit shouldn’t have been there
which bit?lol that bit shouldn’t have been there
CJJ
I've also only been in Wales since 2021. From London originally.
Depends - it doesn't work when people claim all of the good stuff is in spite of the man, and all of the bad stuff - even now - is because of the man.
You can believe he's had nothing to do with the success or failures on the pitch (down to the manager and the players) or that he's equally credited
i think its a mixture of all really. I believe the biggest player in all this mess is ENIC, no matter what. We can change manager, CEO, and some players, but the outlasting components are the Owners. The fact that after we did fail in 2019, we never pushed on, is probably their biggest failure. Now, I aint a fan of Levy, never was, but as this is the ENIC board, my biggest gripe is them. And their failures are still happening. Manager needs to go, I think letting him go out there tonight, is out of order from the board. We have an Ex Gooner in charge. If nothing changes, nothing changes. Apart from fighting relegation if they dont change anything.
fair enough but will probably implode pretty soon, so maybe should have been there.
If we ignore the League Cup 2008, then 1991 FA Cup so 35 years.
Most of those years Levy was the Chairman or whatever he called his role.
You've sort of defeated your own argument.
The first football person who's actually played the sport professionally from the top down is this new bloke Heitinga.
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You really do really have unconditional love for him . Are you his golden retriever?Lose because of Levy, win because of the players and manager - some super backwards logic
Down Shady get off the sofa , BAD BOY
Certainly not the first time we’ve read such unadulterated fucking bullshit on here.Lose because of Levy, win because of the players and manager - some super backwards logic
Won’t be the last either.
Gosh unrequited loveI think I love him as much as you love me