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Management Who should be Tottenham's next manager after Frank?

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If Frank gets sacked in a near future, who would you like to see as his permanent replacement?

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It's a hell of a gamble to be bringing in an almost complete unknown to try and win a relegation battle .

We need someone with an intimate understanding of how tough the PL is before even worrying about a relegation fight .

They have to get this right or else purgatory here we come , we need a mix of a Poch and Dyche , footballing nouse and some dog .
 
Wild Night said:
It's a hell of a gamble to be bringing in an almost complete unknown to try and win a relegation battle .

We need someone with an intimate understanding of how tough the PL is before even worrying about a relegation fight .

They have to get this right or else purgatory here we come , we need a mix of a Poch and Dyche , footballing nouse and some dog .
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I think the whole 'we need a manager the knows the Prem' thing is starting to look like bollocks tbh.

Frank 'knew the PL' inside out and yet here we are. Worst run in our PL history under him. Glasner came in and sorted out Palace a couple seasons ago, Pereira saved Wolves last year, etc. 2 'complete unknown' foreign managers with zero experience of English football.

I think we just need a good manager that suits us as a club regardless of whether they know the PL. Not go foraging in the dirt for some Dyche or Southgate style appointment that will just alienate the fans even further by trying to play super negative football our squad isn't any good at anyway.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'd much, much rather we go for Marco Rose than some Dyche-like figure.
 
Timberwolf said:
I think the whole 'we need a manager the knows the Prem' thing is starting to look like bollocks tbh.

Frank 'knew the PL' inside out and yet here we are. Worst run in our PL history under him. Glasner came in and sorted out Palace a couple seasons ago, Pereira saved Wolves last year, etc. 2 'complete unknown' foreign managers with zero experience of English football.

I think we just need a good manager that suits us as a club regardless of whether they know the PL. Not go foraging in the dirt for some Dyche or Southgate style appointment that will just alienate the fans even further by trying to play super negative football our squad isn't any good at anyway.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but I'd much, much rather we go for Marco Rose than some Dyche-like figure.
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I understand what your saying but say we bring Rose , we're in a relegation fight , might be only for 3/4 games if we pulled out a couple of wins , but that's what worries me about bringing in about someone like Rose , he's coming in blind , seeing and watching the PL is a different beast to managing in it .

I never suggested Dyche was our solution but someone with that hard edge but with a bit more finesse .

There is a reason guys like big Sam and 'arry and similar types have been called on in desperate situations in the past .

But my worry is we have simply left it a couple of games too late , whoever comes in has a massive job with all the injuries and players mentality , they have to get it right .
 
Timberwolf said:
Leicester changed manager and won the league after finishing 17th the year before. Chelsea won everything under the sun while changing managers every 5 minutes.

I agree we could use some stability but I don't think it's as simple as "give the manager time and he'll do well". Managers usually get more time because they're doing a good job to begin with. If Arteta, Poch or Klopp had been doing shit after 2-3 years in the job they would've been sacked. They stayed because there was an upward trajcectory and things were improving.

For me the more important thing is making sure the people behind the scenes are competent, have some kind of coherent vision and are signing the right players and bringing in managers that align with that. The reason we're struggling isn't cos we keep changing managers, per se, it's cos each manager is the polar opposite of the one that came before and our squad building is a joke.
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And given your last paragraph, I’m not sure they are.
 
Stephen D said:
And given your last paragraph, I’m not sure they are.
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Nah they clearly aren't which is why we're in this giant fucking mess.

If Vinai and the board have any sense at all they'll bin off that useless bellend Lange and get someone competent in to oversee football operations. Problem is the new board don't know football so fuck knows who they're listening to or if they have any competent advisers. Doesn't seem like Vinai has much of a clue either...

It's the blind leading the blind atm.

Levy for all his many faults, was clearly at least pretty connected and would speak to "proper football" people like Pleat for advice. Do Vinai and the new board have those contacts or are they just trusting everything Lange tells them as gospel.
 
Aphex said:
The few years under Poch when we were winning every week at the top end of the table, being lauded by pundits as the best team in the country, beating top teams including our London rivals home and away, making it to the latter stages of the domestic cups and the CL final were infinitely more enjoyable than the two years under Ange that culminated in the Europa League. I don’t care what anyone says.

If people genuinely enjoyed that one night over those amazing years under Poch I just don’t get it.

The only thing missing under Poch was the trophy but that period under Poch was the best since the 1980s. The trophy under Ramos or Ange doesn’t come close to it.

The game really is about more than a trophy. It’s about the context. The trophy should be the culmination of the glory period but a trophy surrounded by shite isn’t all that.

Woolwich's fans have enjoyed the last three years far more than we have, yet we are the ones with a trophy. Which just shows winning a trophy isn’t just what it’s about.
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There is some truth to this. As a fan of football - we are essentially here to be entertained, and the buzz of winning is the drug.

However, in the pursuit of entertainment and pure emotion - you don't have to win, but you must ENTERTAIN. The 9 man game vs Chelsea for instance. We still talk about that one. Edge of the seat stuff. There is probably a DVD of that one in the Spurs shop. Bale's hattrick vs Inter Milan - incredible (btw, we lost); Moura's hattrick vs Ajax (we drew). Memorable moments.

Nothing the team did under Frank was entertaining. The only game where there was any spark was against PSG in the SuperCup.

One thing that stuck with me was my mate; a lifelong Liverpool fan - stopped watching in the season they won the league. It was boring, no fans in the stadium, and he knew they were going to win. It wasn't entertaining. No emotion.

We want entertaining, attacking football. Never say die. Never play for the draw. Never sit back. Win; or die on your sword. We want to watch Football, not Chess.
 
If I'm Tottenham, I'm reaching out to Ruben Amorim about the interim role.

He will want the Benfica job in the summer when Mourinho leaves and their president Rui Costa has always been interested in him, and we want Pochettino.

His system is a good short term fit for our current squad and he is the only manager I am confident and 100% know will play the youth academy players without hesitation. He was excellent for this at Sporting and also recently at United as you have all seen.
 
mattjw said:
The thing is, ultimately, Poch never failed with us. We had a Champion League final hangover which caused a bad patch at the beginning of the next season, which I'm sure we would have got through had we give him the time - if there was ever a manager to give time to, it was Poch then. I think he's got to be given a another stab just for that. And despite what people will say, we have plenty of top talent at the club for Poch to do something with.
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That's not what happened.
We finished 5th, 3rd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th.
We were on the decline before the CL final. We were actually fairly lucky to get out of the group. We were going out at the semi final until injury time as well.
But, a big factor in that was definitely Demebele'a fitness declining and then leaving.
If he was replaced it might not have been so bad.
 
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