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Why do we have to wait till the summer to sack this fucker , what's he got to do between now and then .
Other than give shite advice .
I don't think he's getting sacked. Would've been done by now. Maybe if we go down he goes, but the upper management don't seem to have a clue about football, and I'm sure he and the Gooner are filling their heads with lots of lies to appease them.
 
I don't think he's getting sacked. Would've been done by now. Maybe if we go down he goes, but the upper management don't seem to have a clue about football, and I'm sure he and the Gooner are filling their heads with lots of lies to appease them.

He will get sacked in my opinion, as will the CEO.

To further disrupt this season would be rank stupidity however.

One focus only and that's to stay up.
 
He will get sacked in my opinion, as will the CEO.

To further disrupt this season would be rank stupidity however.

One focus only and that's to stay up.
We need to plan for next season though, and properly this time. We get a DoF that decides how football is played at the club, from top to bottom and we hire managers, and buy players based on that strategy. It's not a short-term process, so needs significant time to plan for both eventualities of this season.

If we drag this into summer, wait for Poch, hire another DoF, we're back to working on the fly, buying more crap for another completely different playstyle, and we'll eventually sleep walk into this again.

I very much doubt the players will care one bit as to whether the CEO or DoF is gone.

This is all a perfect world. What I think will happen is that he stays, Vinai, could go either way. But the right thing to do would be to sack that idiot right now, and have a set plan in place for next season and start acting like a proper football club.
 
He will get sacked in my opinion, as will the CEO.

To further disrupt this season would be rank stupidity however.

One focus only and that's to stay up.
I don't see how sacking him disrupts anything on the pitch. Right now is the perfect time, otherwise we sack him during the close season and whoever replaces him has to be recruited and up to speed and by the time he is ENIC can just say "well we ran out of time"

Get rid, now.
 
We need to plan for next season though, and properly this time. We get a DoF that decides how football is played at the club, from top to bottom and we hire managers, and buy players based on that strategy. It's not a short-term process, so needs significant time to plan for both eventualities of this season.

If we drag this into summer, wait for Poch, hire another DoF, we're back to working on the fly, buying more crap for another completely different playstyle, and we'll eventually sleep walk into this again.

I very much doubt the players will care one bit as to whether the CEO or DoF is gone.

This is all a perfect world. What I think will happen is that he stays, Vinai, could go either way. But the right thing to do would be to sack that idiot right now, and have a set plan in place for next season and start acting like a proper football club.

Mate, we can't plan for next season. It's too obvious to need to paint out.
 
Mate, we can't plan for next season. It's too obvious to need to paint out.
As I said, we need to plan for two eventualites, and we absolutely do need to plan, it would be gross negligence not to, in fact. If we go into next season with no manager by July, probably no new DoF by then too, we're months late. Every team continously plans for the next season. Making it up as you go along is why we're here.
 
As I said, we need to plan for two eventualites, and we absolutely do need to plan, it would be gross negligence not to, in fact. If we go into next season with no manager by July, probably no new DoF by then too, we're months late. Every team continously plans for the next season. Making it up as you go along is why we're here.

I don't think we make it up as we go along. You are reading into our parlous situation and working backwards.

Foundational planning will be talking place I am sure, but until we know which league we will be in it's simply a waste of time.

Do you honestly feel that if this rabble told you they were already planning for next season that it would quell your concerns and fill you with confidence?

You aren't thinking it through mate.
 
I don't think we make it up as we go along. You are reading into our parlous situation and working backwards.

Foundational planning will be talking place I am sure, but until we know which league we will be in it's simply a waste of time.

Do you honestly feel that if this rabble told you they were already planning for next season that it would quell your concerns and fill you with confidence?

You aren't thinking it through mate.
We absolutely make it up as we go along. We've went from Conte to Ange, to Frank. That is not how a settled club makes decisions. You don't go from one extreme to another, especially over such a short space of time. You have to buy players for each managers vastly different systems. That's winging it.

Dude, I've said what should happen, and what I think will happen. What I think will happen is not good. What should happen would be good.

As I've said, coming in and implementing a structure isn't something that can be done overnight, takes months and years of planning. Every single day wasted with this idiot is another day in which we can't plan. We need to have targets in mind for both going down and staying up. If we sit and wait til summer, we'll be so far behind everyone else and all of the big targets would've been moved.

I don't think you're thinking this through at all. Wait to do it all in the summer, miss all targets for both eventualities, and hurt ourselves further. That's negligence.
 
We absolutely make it up as we go along. We've went from Conte to Ange, to Frank. That is not how a settled club makes decisions. You don't go from one extreme to another, especially over such a short space of time. You have to buy players for each managers vastly different systems. That's winging it.

Dude, I've said what should happen, and what I think will happen. What I think will happen is not good. What should happen would be good.

As I've said, coming in and implementing a structure isn't something that can be done overnight, takes months and years of planning. Every single day wasted with this idiot is another day in which we can't plan. We need to have targets in mind for both going down and staying up. If we sit and wait til summer, we'll be so far behind everyone else and all of the big targets would've been moved.

I don't think you're thinking this through at all. Wait to do it all in the summer, miss all targets for both eventualities, and hurt ourselves further. That's negligence.

We disagree

All good.

Knowing when to accept points are different is important.

Let's see.
 
Surely he never gets another job in football again? Same with Vinai? Even if they somehow don’t end up relegating us, the fact that the top flight survival of the worlds 9th richest club is coming down to a roll of the dice that players return from injury with no hiccups is fucking insane.
 
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Surely he never gets another job in football again? Same with Vinai? Even if they somehow don’t end up relegating us, the fact that the top flight survival of the worlds 9th richest club is coming down to a roll of the dice that players return from injury with no hiccups is fucking if insane.

Yep.

Buy your way out of trouble just like City bought themselves back into the title race.

It's an absolute disgrace what happened last month. Just unbelievable. The retention of a manager who was going nowhere and buying who we did, and whatever anyone says, selling Johnson, without a direct replacement. Makes me fume .

If it were not us I would say that kind of incompetence deserved relegation.
 
For every Bergvail he finds he finds another few duds or no one at all. Should be sacked just for that vid post January window, highly insulting to every fan and made him look a greater tool than he usually does.
 
We absolutely make it up as we go along. We've went from Conte to Ange, to Frank. That is not how a settled club makes decisions. You don't go from one extreme to another, especially over such a short space of time. You have to buy players for each managers vastly different systems. That's winging it.

Dude, I've said what should happen, and what I think will happen. What I think will happen is not good. What should happen would be good.

As I've said, coming in and implementing a structure isn't something that can be done overnight, takes months and years of planning. Every single day wasted with this idiot is another day in which we can't plan. We need to have targets in mind for both going down and staying up. If we sit and wait til summer, we'll be so far behind everyone else and all of the big targets would've been moved.

I don't think you're thinking this through at all. Wait to do it all in the summer, miss all targets for both eventualities, and hurt ourselves further. That's negligence.
Bang on.

Man City spent 3-4 years recruiting the right people so that Guardiola felt comfortable upon arrival.

Likewise Liverpool, whilst not as detailed, had Michael Edwards assisting Klopp.

We’ve actually had 2 pretty good guys in the last decade that we could have persevered with ; Paul Mitchell and Gabbianini, but the board ran both off.
 
Bang on.

Man City spent 3-4 years recruiting the right people so that Guardiola felt comfortable upon arrival.

Likewise Liverpool, whilst not as detailed, had Michael Edwards assisting Klopp.

We’ve actually had 2 pretty good guys in the last decade that we could have persevered with ; Paul Mitchell and Gabbianini, but the board ran both off.
They were probably getting a bit too big for their boots. Having the nerve to ask for quality players. Sneaky little SoB's
 
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