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Player Cristian Romero

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Not sure that's balanced.

If we go down, God forbid,a fair whack of that is on the previous manager but also those who kept him in situ for too long. Paucity all over the shop right there and savage incompetence.

On Romero, I think he is a poor captain, and that's unhelpful and not as it should be.

He is not however alone on the pitch, but should lead better, and when he plays well of course he is an obvious asset to the team.

All I know is that he owes the fans a few top quality games between now and the end of the season.
He is setting the standard as a captain and our standard has lowered materially.

He's also cost us so many points this season through errors, and the goals he scored in no way make up for it as it is mainly for draws or in games we lose, and after he has cost us a goal earlier.

Take the 10+ points he has cost us this season. If we had those points now, nobody would be talking about relegation. We would be close to 40 and while still in a miserable position, no way relegation candidates.
 
It's honestly hilarious that some people think Romero is “valuable” just because he scores the occasional goal. Like, seriously? That magically fixes his dumpster-fire defending?


Let's break it down:
  • 4 goals this season – that’s it.

    -Newcastle: 2 goals. Contribution: 1 point… if you ignore that he sucked defensively for the first and gave away a penalty. Net: +1 point.
    -West Ham: 1 goal. Loss. Contribution: 0 points.
    -Burnley: 1 goal. Contribution: cost us two goals and three points through his absolute clownery. Net: -3 points.

Even when he scores, the guy still costs us points. That's a special kind of terrible.

And that's ignoring all the other matches where he straight-up loses games for us – dumb defending, red cards, you name it. We're talking ~15 points lost this season thanks to Captain Clownshoe.

Bottom line: Romero is so horrifically bad that even the rare goals he scores can't save him. Truly remarkable in his ineptitude.
 
It's honestly hilarious that some people think Romero is “valuable” just because he scores the occasional goal. Like, seriously? That magically fixes his dumpster-fire defending?


Let's break it down:
  • 4 goals this season – that’s it.

    -Newcastle: 2 goals. Contribution: 1 point… if you ignore that he sucked defensively for the first and gave away a penalty. Net: +1 point.
    -West Ham: 1 goal. Loss. Contribution: 0 points.
    -Burnley: 1 goal. Contribution: cost us two goals and three points through his absolute clownery. Net: -3 points.

Even when he scores, the guy still costs us points. That's a special kind of terrible.

And that's ignoring all the other matches where he straight-up loses games for us – dumb defending, red cards, you name it. We're talking ~15 points lost this season thanks to Captain Clownshoe.

Bottom line: Romero is so horrifically bad that even the rare goals he scores can't save him. Truly remarkable in his ineptitude.

I really can't take people seriously who assess the game in isolated stand out moments as opposed to assessing their contribution over 90 mins, this is not really how football works my friend and this isn't how coaches analyse football and performances either.
 
It's honestly hilarious that some people think Romero is “valuable” just because he scores the occasional goal. Like, seriously? That magically fixes his dumpster-fire defending?


Let's break it down:
  • 4 goals this season – that’s it.

    -Newcastle: 2 goals. Contribution: 1 point… if you ignore that he sucked defensively for the first and gave away a penalty. Net: +1 point.
    -West Ham: 1 goal. Loss. Contribution: 0 points.
    -Burnley: 1 goal. Contribution: cost us two goals and three points through his absolute clownery. Net: -3 points.

Even when he scores, the guy still costs us points. That's a special kind of terrible.

And that's ignoring all the other matches where he straight-up loses games for us – dumb defending, red cards, you name it. We're talking ~15 points lost this season thanks to Captain Clownshoe.

Bottom line: Romero is so horrifically bad that even the rare goals he scores can't save him. Truly remarkable in his ineptitude.
Romero is 100 times better than Dragusin though, he's easily our best CB on the ball. We badly need him if we're going to survive which is why it's so frustrating that he's constantly getting himself suspended.
 
I really can't take people seriously who assess the game in isolated stand out moments as opposed to assessing their contribution over 90 mins, this is not really how football works my friend and this isn't how coaches analyse football and performances either.
And I can't take people seriously who think that mistakes from one player costing us goals game after game is just a coincidence and not a pattern.
 
Romero is 100 times better than Dragusin though, he's easily our best CB on the ball. We badly need him if we're going to survive which is why it's so frustrating that he's constantly getting himself suspended.
No, we need someone who can defend. What good is "being good on the ball" if you can't stop the opposition when THEY have the ball?

Plus his supposed ability on the ball is so incredibly overrated. If he was anything like what you claim, he would be a midfielder or attacker, not a defender.

He is being marketed as a defender "good on the ball" when in reality he can't even do his job. And he is obviously not good enough for any other position either.
 
Romero is 100 times better than Dragusin though, he's easily our best CB on the ball. We badly need him if we're going to survive which is why it's so frustrating that he's constantly getting himself suspended.

That's arguably what makes him being captain such an own goal decision.

What Romero has provided this season and in the round has not been good enough, especially as our captain.

But yes, he needs to be in the team. No question.
 
Romero is back gameweek 30 against Liverpool. He's on 8 yellows and gets another suspension if he gets 10 yellows up to gameweek 32 so we would need him to get at most 1 yellow from Liverpool (A), Forest (H) and Sunderland (A) to avoid another 2 game ban.
 
Captain Clownshoe can be a great defender, on certain days, against certain teams and if he can be arsed.

He is also capable of being absolute shite and a total liability and has had this since day one with us.
 
What were the games we were winning with him? Its like you have had your memory wiped. The last game we actually won...guess what no Romero. This very disingenuous take.
I'm playing devil's advocate here. It's just funny all the moaning that people don't want him to play, and when he doesn't, it's his fault we lose. Do you not see the irony here?

I'm sick to death of him, doesn't mean he's still not out one of our best two CB's sadly.
 
It's honestly hilarious that some people think Romero is “valuable” just because he scores the occasional goal. Like, seriously? That magically fixes his dumpster-fire defending?


Let's break it down:
  • 4 goals this season – that’s it.

    -Newcastle: 2 goals. Contribution: 1 point… if you ignore that he sucked defensively for the first and gave away a penalty. Net: +1 point.
    -West Ham: 1 goal. Loss. Contribution: 0 points.
    -Burnley: 1 goal. Contribution: cost us two goals and three points through his absolute clownery. Net: -3 points.

Even when he scores, the guy still costs us points. That's a special kind of terrible.

And that's ignoring all the other matches where he straight-up loses games for us – dumb defending, red cards, you name it. We're talking ~15 points lost this season thanks to Captain Clownshoe.

Bottom line: Romero is so horrifically bad that even the rare goals he scores can't save him. Truly remarkable in his ineptitude.

Your claims that Romero has cost us X amount of points this season through personal errors (an entirely reasonable claim mind you) would hold more weight if the only actual example you give wasn't Newcastle - where he scored 2 goals and apparently magically turned himself into Rodrigo Bentancur to give away their penalty :cautious::D
 
I'm playing devil's advocate here. It's just funny all the moaning that people don't want him to play, and when he doesn't, it's his fault we lose. Do you not see the irony here?

I'm sick to death of him, doesn't mean he's still not out one of our best two CB's sadly.
You're right. Two things can be true and they highlight exactly how big a bind we are in...fucking depressing.
 
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