You can just tell by how the players act. Even though we struggled last year, didn't seem like players were in disarray. Might have been Frank who knows, but right now there is no fight in the team at all.
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Are you going to continue to lie? Do you even care that what you said is factually not true???My guy, if you can't see that the data clearly states that we win more when he plays, lose more when he doesn't and, this season, we can't even scrape a draw if he's not there - then you're just not accepting the evidence.
None of this is "good". It's horrific. But this is where we are after not signing Guehi (amongst others) in summer 2024. Your obsession with Romero is just letting the real culprits off the hook
Do you not understand that him missing coincides with 10 other players also missing hence it's really quite hard to gauge who we are actually missing most and how important he is this season.
If we have the majority of players fit with Romero replaced with Danso, I am of the opinion that it wouldn't make no difference. If however hes replaced with Dragusin there obviously would because Dragusin is horrendous...it's really that simple.
You don't understand simple maths. Good to know.
33>25. You really didn't even understand that in school? Do I need to explain further?
Ffs, this is embarrassing how you can't do stuff that a 4 year old could do. Or you're playing dumb for the sake of a footballer.
My friend I have posted the data and the math is incontestable. Christian Romero is, without doubt, our most important player since Kane left.
Hopefully there's a future where that's not the case but until then I suggest you focus your anger on the people who overseen the catastrophic decline in our overall squad quality.
You might also want to show some appreciation to Romero whose record in Europe is quite simply astonishing - capped off by his MOM in our first European Trophy for 40 years. He's an imperfect player but surely that gets him at least a wave goodbye from you when you've found us a worthy replacement?
You can not be serious?
incontestable?
You realise the game we play has 11 players - in fact a squad of 20+ players.
You have shown very limited, uncontextualised data from one player's involvement, and you think that is proof of anything.
Mate, that's not how data works.
You would need to run the same method you have for every single player in our sqaud, adjust for minutes, who else was playing, and their influence on games too - at minimum to show any kind of correlation.
Honestly......
View: https://youtu.be/yUJBxa23VIM?si=OqNFAVXzEUqX99R2
Brad’s not a fan!
‘He’s the kind that I might have problems with in the changing room!’
Quite a bit of additional insightful stuff from his time with us.
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View: https://youtu.be/yUJBxa23VIM?si=OqNFAVXzEUqX99R2
Brad’s not a fan!
Quite a bit of additional insightful stuff from his time with us.
LAUNCHED ATTACK lmao
He just called him petulant which going by his disciplinary record he is, hold the front page
Click bait done it's job I guess.
I have made some statements on him already.
He is shite. There will be no difference once he is back. Will be just as shit as usual.
He is shite. There will be no difference once he is back. Will be just as shit as usual.
We have played in 8 league draws this season. Romero played in them all.
In league games without Romero we have not drawn once.
That is a fact my friend. Not a "lie".
Once again you've come bursting into the thread with more falsehoods, more straw men, more unfocused ranting and, I'm afraid to say, increasingly concerning and baffling conclusions.
I saw to you again: this season has been an absolute binfire and we're all really fucked off about it but YOU really need to deal with it better.
Now... obviously this season has been particularly tough for you as you spent all last season insisting that all our ills in the league were the fault of Ange Postecoglou. You weren't alone in that take and you were slightly less abusive than certain others in promulgating it but... it's safe to say events have rather brutally proved you wrong and that's not easy to accept - especially when you're having to converse with those of us who patiently tried to warn you that our ills run far deeper than any manager.
Also, you are on the record as declaring Thomas Frank your first and best choice to replace Ange Postecoglou. He's now been sacked after getting us into an actual relegation fight. This is distressing for all of us obviously, but particularly for you having invested so much moral and intellectual capital into him.
But it's all good, bruh. Everyone makes mistakes. It's how you react to those mistakes that matter - and that's where I'm afraid you're really letting yourself down. You're so angry and full of self-loathing you're lashing out constantly - not just on this thread but on all of them.
Now, if you want to rebut my thesis that "Christian Romero is our most important player" then, please, make an argument. Provide an alternative. Provide some evidence. Do anything other than this mad futile anger and rage.
But some friendly advice? I wouldn't go with "Kevin Danso is as important as Christian Romero".
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Sigh. You can lead a horse to water but cannot make them drink. Nor, obviously can you get them to try finding their own fucking water hole.
I have advanced a thesis: "Christian Romero is our most important player". I have advanced this thesis on the Chistian Romero thread on a discussion forum for Spurs fans.
I have based this thesis on subjective personal experience both as a Season Ticket Holder watching every second week; on the stated remarks and actions of our last two managers and, finally, some raw data that very clearly shows that when Christian Romero plays Tottenham WINS MORE.
I find the data compelling. If you do not that's fine. But please advance a different argument. Provide some evidence for it. Your own data.
Ie: TRY AND CONVINCE ME USING EVIDENCE.
That's what a discussion is supposed to be. Until you do this, why would I bother listening to you? I would love for you to convince me otherwise. Truly. I don't "love" Christian Romero. In fact I hate the fact he's our most important player. But everything I've seen, heard, and that data I've researched proves to me, sadly, that he is.
So go on - make me feel better and show me he's not. Here I'll help you with some raw data from Mickey Van de Ven who I consider our 2nd most important player. Since Mickey joined in 2023 (with Romero's data in brackets):
Wins with Mickey: 26 (30)
Wins without Mickey: 12 (8)
Losses with Mickey: 27 (27)
Losses without Mickey: 20 (12)
Draws with Mickey 13 (15)
Draws without Mickey 6 (4)
So this raw data over 2 and 2/3 rds seasons suggests we win more when Romero plays but lose more when Mickey is missing. These could be interpreted to cancel each other out but I place a premium on "wins" - especially in a relegation battle.
You might like to argue otherwise? Fair enough. Or maybe you believe someone else is our most important player? If so - please make an argument and convince me. I'd love to be - anything to give me some fucking hope for the rest of the season.
1. You measure success by draws. Not games won. We have won a higher % of our games without Romero. So you would normally think we would be more successful without him. But then you change the definition of success to mean draw. How convenient.We have played in 8 league draws this season. Romero played in them all.
In league games without Romero we have not drawn once.
That is a fact my friend. Not a "lie".
Once again you've come bursting into the thread with more falsehoods, more straw men, more unfocused ranting and, I'm afraid to say, increasingly concerning and baffling conclusions.
I saw to you again: this season has been an absolute binfire and we're all really fucked off about it but YOU really need to deal with it better.
Now... obviously this season has been particularly tough for you as you spent all last season insisting that all our ills in the league were the fault of Ange Postecoglou. You weren't alone in that take and you were slightly less abusive than certain others in promulgating it but... it's safe to say events have rather brutally proved you wrong and that's not easy to accept - especially when you're having to converse with those of us who patiently tried to warn you that our ills run far deeper than any manager.
Also, you are on the record as declaring Thomas Frank your first and best choice to replace Ange Postecoglou. He's now been sacked after getting us into an actual relegation fight. This is distressing for all of us obviously, but particularly for you having invested so much moral and intellectual capital into him.
But it's all good, bruh. Everyone makes mistakes. It's how you react to those mistakes that matter - and that's where I'm afraid you're really letting yourself down. You're so angry and full of self-loathing you're lashing out constantly - not just on this thread but on all of them.
Now, if you want to rebut my thesis that "Christian Romero is our most important player" then, please, make an argument. Provide an alternative. Provide some evidence. Do anything other than this mad futile anger and rage.
But some friendly advice? I wouldn't go with "Kevin Danso is as important as Christian Romero".
You say no draws without Romero. But the draw against City for example. We sucked and were down 0-2 at half time. Once Captain Clownshoe came off, we turned it around to 2-2. But in your world this only proves how successful we are with Romero because we played him for 45 minutes. And despite being down with him on the pitch, you literally count this as the success being due to him, while in face it was the exact opposite. This is just too great. Keep it coming!
View: https://youtu.be/yUJBxa23VIM?si=OqNFAVXzEUqX99R2
Brad’s not a fan!
‘He’s the kind that I might have problems with in the changing room!’
Quite a bit of additional insightful stuff from his time with us.
Oh god I miss this clarity. Get him in at Spurs at some fucking level he gets it!!!!
1. You measure success by draws. Not games won. We have won a higher % of our games without Romero. So you would normally think we would be more successful without him. But then you change the definition of success to mean draw. How convenient.
You say no draws without Romero. But the draw against City for example. We sucked and were down 0-2 at half time. Once Captain Clownshoe came off, we turned it around to 2-2. But in your world this only proves how successful we are with Romero because we played him for 45 minutes. And despite being down with him on the pitch, you literally count this as the success being due to him, while in face it was the exact opposite. This is just too great. Keep it coming!
I didn't measure anything as either success or failure. I just found it an interesting data point from this season.
And you cannot possibly fathom how uninterested I am in your childish outbursts and infantile epithets like "Captain Clownshoe". It just instantly makes me think you're deeply unserious at a time when Spurs face a very very serious situation.
Mate come on... Romero on a bad day is levels above Danso who in my opinion is an Austrian Joe Rodon. Mid/Lower table PL clogger.
People doing mental gymnastics to get out of admitting he's our best player.
Petulant and erratic at times yes.
But also comfortably our best player when he's at it.
So all we can do is hope he's at it for the run in. If he is, we will be a much better side than we will be with Danso or Dragusin playing out of their skins.
You're asking me to argue with nonsense.
You presented extraordinarily flawed and frankly meaningless solo data - I'm not going to do the work for you, mate - you said your data was incontestable - you just presented data yourself about VDV that shows that to be a false statement. You cant just cancel it out lol -
in a game of 11 players, the volume of data you will need to prove your thesis is insanely vast - I have no desire to prove you wrong when you havent even come close to proving yourself right
An astonishingly vacuous and cowardly response.
As such I remain confident in my assessment that Christian Romero is our most important player. And I will continue to assert it until I see evidence to the contrary.
So that's where we are I guess. Enjoy your day
Lol. State of this as usual.
An astonishingly vacuous and cowardly response.
As such I remain confident in my assessment that Christian Romero is our most important player. And I will continue to assert it until I see evidence to the contrary.
So that's where we are I guess. Enjoy your day
LOL, my response is vacuous?
You remain confident in your own assessment based on the data you have found that supports your assessment. You must be a politician.