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The point of protesting now? If not now, when? Is there ever a point? Does it even work?
Nothing can be done now. Fans protested last season as they saw a possible better future without Levy at the helm. They cared , now everyone is resigned to it.
Did it work ?, I would say it had an effect, certain banners were in the media for days. All attention ENIC/Levy would have hated.
ENIC have not cared about the football side of the club for years therefore you can't beat someone who actually has a different aim other than succeeding on the pitch. They are an investment company who care about their investments , football was an add on.
 
I thought apathy would be the reason. Understandable too. I’ve not been this season at all, have deliberately not watched a few of our matches and am out tomorrow night, so won’t see the Palace game either.

The point of protesting now? If not now, when? Is there ever a point? Does it even work?
There's never a wrong moment to show distrust towards the board/owners. The important part is to still support the team and differentiate the two.

"Sell the team!" may be the easiest message to peddle I guess.
 

I know we’ve seen a gradual decline under Levy, but I personally believe this clusterfuck we now find ourselves in has a lot to do with his removal.

I reckon they severely underestimated how involved the running of the club was and it’s become rudderless under Vinai and the Lewis kids.

Whatever side of the Levy argument you stand on, I think most people would agree he’d have removed Frank far sooner and we’d then have had a much better chance of avoiding getting drawn into the relegation scrap we now find ourselves in.

Vinai is clearly not equipped for making that kind of difficult decision when compared to someone who was breathing the club for 25 years and fired countless managers.
 
I know we’ve seen a gradual decline under Levy, but I personally believe this clusterfuck we now find ourselves in has a lot to do with his removal.

I reckon they severely underestimated how involved the running of the club was and it’s become rudderless under Vinai and the Lewis kids.

Whatever side of the Levy argument you stand on, I think most people would agree he’d have removed Frank far sooner and we’d then have had a much better chance of avoiding getting drawn into the relegation scrap we now find ourselves in.

Vinai is clearly not equipped for making that kind of difficult decision when compared to someone who was breathing the club for 25 years and fired countless managers.
I'm convinced he'd have listened to Fabio and sacked Frank months earlier, whilst spending significantly more in the January window.

Probably overpaid for some average players and we would all be on here complaining about being 10th with European football next season looking out of reach.
 
I know we’ve seen a gradual decline under Levy, but I personally believe this clusterfuck we now find ourselves in has a lot to do with his removal.

I reckon they severely underestimated how involved the running of the club was and it’s become rudderless under Vinai and the Lewis kids.

Whatever side of the Levy argument you stand on, I think most people would agree he’d have removed Frank far sooner and we’d then have had a much better chance of avoiding getting drawn into the relegation scrap we now find ourselves in.

Vinai is clearly not equipped for making that kind of difficult decision when compared to someone who was breathing the club for 25 years and fired countless managers.
Where we are now is a direct result of the processes Levy put in place. Heck, he hired Vinai, Lange and Paratici!

I’m not so sure he would have acted in a quick time. Maybe after the West Ham loss at best. Last season he allowed Ange to muddle through godawful form and signed the bare minimum in January.

It’s a shame the guy isn’t still here to take the brunt of responsibility he’s got for relegating us.
 
Where we are now is a direct result of the processes Levy put in place. Heck, he hired Vinai, Lange and Paratici!

I’m not so sure he would have acted in a quick time. Maybe after the West Ham loss at best. Last season he allowed Ange to muddle through godawful form and signed the bare minimum in January.

It’s a shame the guy isn’t still here to take the brunt of responsibility he’s got for relegating us.
Yeah but we were never this close to relegation points wise last season as we are now.

I can’t see that he wouldn’t have fired Frank far sooner and I agree with SameOldSpurs SameOldSpurs in that he’d have listened to Paratici.
 
I'm convinced he'd have listened to Fabio and sacked Frank months earlier, whilst spending significantly more in the January window.

Probably overpaid for some average players and we would all be on here complaining about being 10th with European football next season looking out of reach.
Yeah. We'll never know, but I don't think we'd have gone down with Levy. I agree with your assessment.
 
I know we’ve seen a gradual decline under Levy, but I personally believe this clusterfuck we now find ourselves in has a lot to do with his removal.

I reckon they severely underestimated how involved the running of the club was and it’s become rudderless under Vinai and the Lewis kids.

Whatever side of the Levy argument you stand on, I think most people would agree he’d have removed Frank far sooner and we’d then have had a much better chance of avoiding getting drawn into the relegation scrap we now find ourselves in.

Vinai is clearly not equipped for making that kind of difficult decision when compared to someone who was breathing the club for 25 years and fired countless managers.

Was just coming in here to say more or less the same thing, but you’ve hit the nail on the head.

I’m no Levy apologist, he was long past his sell by here, and he needed to go, but not if the alternative is this. He at least knew how to operate a football club, maybe not one that competes for trophies at any sort of sustained level, but he wouldn’t have let his personal feelings get in the way of sacking Frank the way the Chuckle Brothers did. I reckon Frank would’ve been gone after the Chelsea & Woolwich debacle in November, if not, he’d have been skating on very thin ice, and the results that followed would’ve seen him sacked well before Christmas. I also think he would’ve likely recognised the danger we were in earlier and panicked into making a few more signings in January.

For the fans, it’s horrible that we’re in this position, and of course I don’t want us to go down just to spite them, but there’s no owners that deserve relegation more. Their penny pinching and neglect of the football side of the business is finally catching up to them.

Whatever happens, they need to name their price and get to fuck, they’re not fit to run Tottenham Hotspur, as if that wasn’t obvious over the last 25 years.
 
Whatever happens, they need to name their price and get to fuck, they’re not fit to run Tottenham Hotspur, as if that wasn’t obvious over the last 25 years.
I was wondering this morning if Staveley and her consortium may see relegation or scraping survival as a perfect opportunity for acquiring the club.

Say it’s worth £4B and they offer £3.5B even if relegated, the Lewis family may not have the appetite for Championship football or a full rebuild if we survive.

If we’re relegated, the consortium may fancy the long game and their chances of bouncing us straight back up under someone like Poch with the appropriate investment.

Whatever happens I hope the existing ownership have had enough and sell up.
 
Was just coming in here to say more or less the same thing, but you’ve hit the nail on the head.

I’m no Levy apologist, he was long past his sell by here, and he needed to go, but not if the alternative is this. He at least knew how to operate a football club, maybe not one that competes for trophies at any sort of sustained level, but he wouldn’t have let his personal feelings get in the way of sacking Frank the way the Chuckle Brothers did. I reckon Frank would’ve been gone after the Chelsea & Woolwich debacle in November, if not, he’d have been skating on very thin ice, and the results that followed would’ve seen him sacked well before Christmas. I also think he would’ve likely recognised the danger we were in earlier and panicked into making a few more signings in January.

For the fans, it’s horrible that we’re in this position, and of course I don’t want us to go down just to spite them, but there’s no owners that deserve relegation more. Their penny pinching and neglect of the football side of the business is finally catching up to them.

Whatever happens, they need to name their price and get to fuck, they’re not fit to run Tottenham Hotspur, as if that wasn’t obvious over the last 25 years.
Great post
 
I was wondering this morning if Staveley and her consortium may see relegation or scraping survival as a perfect opportunity for acquiring the club.

Say it’s worth £4B and they offer £3.5B even if relegated, the Lewis family may not have the appetite for Championship football or a full rebuild if we survive.

If we’re relegated, the consortium may fancy the long game and their chances of bouncing us straight back up under someone like Poch with the appropriate investment.

Whatever happens I hope the existing ownership have had enough and sell up.
Yes, that's possible. Because there is the direct hit of relegation, plus the uncertainty to future revenues, not least as a function of the uncertainty re when we can get back up.
 
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