So what you're saying is Tottenham should've signed a better manager in the summer rather than Frank, and better profile of player ? So this season's mistakes
Hence nothing to do with last season
Correct.
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So what you're saying is Tottenham should've signed a better manager in the summer rather than Frank, and better profile of player ? So this season's mistakes
Hence nothing to do with last season
Correct.
First point is true, it still has sth to do with last season. Its always a game of multiple factors. Opponent teams come to us with happy memories of easy wins, there is no fear. Times are over teams came to White Hart Lane, shitting their pants facing players like Dembele, Kane or Bale. And we made it easy for every team and hand them the necessary belief. We are losing every battle on the psychological front. That started a while ago and got intensified by Ange. (the guy who proved at Forest he is clueless)
But you said they were shit.....repeatedly..
Fact is, everyone of our playmakers were missing for that game, Madders, Bergvall and Kulu....I'm convinced we would have created far more chances had any been involved. Utd hardly had any injuries so what was their excuse?...
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You know nothing about motivation, all you are interested in is pulling people down!
Your not a prison officer are you?
Who is judging the manager from the final alone? I dont believe anyone calling Ange the messiah? (Maybe
candrews
is 
)I thihk most sensible people know that the guy's approach is flawed and he is incredibly stubborn but he does know how to get over the line, that much is obvious.
You've missed the point about the CL final, you said we were lucky in the final despite Utd doing all the running and having more shots and possesion, in the CL final that was us and yet Liverpool were the ones who lifted the trophy, that wasn't attributed down to 'luck' so why should our win be?
Pub talk arguments, here we go
obviousl its the only thing that matters in a final. Its still not a reason to install a failing manager who could not sort a defense to save his life for a second time.
You're trying to downplay us winning a trophy using all sorts of mental gymnastics, it's so painful.
Who gives a fuck how we got over the line? The fact is we did and we did something which the likes of Jose, Conte, Poch, Redknapp etc...failed to achieve. Was Ange a better manager than these managers, no? But he did something that they were incapable of doing at this football club.
I find any Spurs fans turning their noses up at us winning trophies utterly hilarious, have you actually listened to yourself?
Ange won a trophy for us by hook or by crook...the fact is he won, you just got to deal with it.
You're trying to downplay us winning a trophy using all sorts of mental gymnastics, it's so painful.
Who gives a fuck how we got over the line? The fact is we did and we did something which the likes of Jose, Conte, Poch, Redknapp etc...failed to achieve. Was Ange a better manager than these managers, no? But he did something that they were incapable of doing at this football club.
I find any Spurs fans turning their noses up at us winning trophies utterly hilarious, have you actually listened to yourself?
Ange won a trophy for us by hook or by crook...the fact is he won, you just got to deal with it.
Quite literally displaying how they aren't really fans, by the very definition of what a fan is.
They relentlessly slag the clubs achievements off.
Need real rumours of Ange coming back. I need that dose.
Doubt you'll here much rumour of anyone until Liverpool have finished pounding on us Sunday afternoon
You don't know anything full stop.
All you have done is post brainless drivel after brainless drivel, whilst going balls deep on Levy's angry inch.
Bla blah blah motivation... Well, if Ange was so fucking great at motivation, why did we finish 17th losing 22 games last season, and threw a away CL spot the season before?
We have scored more goals in last 10 games, than your IQ score.
Absolutely fecking thick as shit.
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Then explain the rest of the season when we was just as shit or worse, and those players were available?
We wasn't shit for one game with a lack of creativity... We finished 17th losing 22 games, coz we was shit all season with or without those players and struggled all season creating chances.
Ange got found out, by the rest of PL, we was so easy to play against.
It’s not happening nor should it you absolute freaks.
Some of our fans deserve all the misery that can be heaped on them
Hello. It would be interesting to know what your current (realistic) solution is to get us out of our current demise?
Not keen on Ange? Fine...if not then who?
There is no solution
You're willing to give up without even wanting the club to put up a fight?
That's sad.
We are at the "results this year are shit, we need to bring back the man who achieved the same results last year" stage of delusion. I can't imagine what stage would be after this.
If its all about your very simplistic way of looking at things. There should have been no debate about Anges future in the summer then? And yet he got the sack. Rightly so.You're trying to downplay us winning a trophy using all sorts of mental gymnastics, it's so painful.
Who gives a fuck how we got over the line? The fact is we did and we did something which the likes of Jose, Conte, Poch, Redknapp etc...failed to achieve. Was Ange a better manager than these managers, no? But he did something that they were incapable of doing at this football club.
I find any Spurs fans turning their noses up at us winning trophies utterly hilarious, have you actually listened to yourself?
Ange won a trophy for us by hook or by crook...the fact is he won, you just got to deal with it.
I never downplay us winning a trophy or say it isnt a great achievement for our history books. I am judging the manager and his involvement in the whole thing. And just because he won a trophy with us I don't see him as any sort of manager-wizard and its all about how we go forward.
Its like saying Roberto di Matteo is a manager genious for winning the CL with Chelsea against Bayern Munich and achieved something, Conte or Mourinho couldn't do at Chelsea. He did well but also got lucky because he could never recreate some sort of similiar success in his managerial career.
I always said thanks Ange for the trophy, you gambled and win here and gave us a brillant moment but still think he is not what we need ever again. It is maybe a judgement for people who have more than a Ange good or Ange bad view.
Everything the club does is wrong
It's not about what I want
It's my firm belief that there isn't a manager in world football that could keep this shower of shit afloat
The club gave up in January
Bringing back a guy who played a key role in creating this rancid losing culture where it's ok to lose premier league matches on a regular basis would just be yet another humiliating cringefest in a season full of them