No club has been relegated with the resources we have. We're the 9th richest side in the world, taking in, what, £600m in revenue?
It's absolutely unprecedented, and it's almost a possibility. Those sides were in financial turmoil.
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It's absolutely unprecedented, and it's almost a possibility. Those sides were in financial turmoil.
And had shit owners coincidence
They did, can't speak for Monaco. But they were all on financial ruin, we are not. For us to go down is one of the biggest failures in sports history. It should be next to impossible.
So shit owners are squarely to blame. But this is absolutely unprecedented. Never before has there been this level of money in football, and never have the English clubs had such a huge sporting advantage over the rest of the word.
And with our resources can we say they back managers im not talking about average shite like gallagher a true elite player?
Thats the reason we are down there there is no true leader no elite player to bail us out of bad times. Sad the state we are in now
The nature of football is that fans enjoy seeing failure at other clubs.
It's squarely on the owners. But to fuck up this badly, is very probably the biggest fuck up in sport. They've been historically bad, not just shit. You can't relegate a side with the resources we have, based on performance, it just can't happen.
Should be tried at the Hague.
I thought wage bill was around 40% of revenue (which is £550M)
It's an interesting theory, but two words in it seem suspect in combination with each other-"Spurs" and "plan". The idea the organization could think through something and execute it doesn't seem to match with what we normally see.
We're bigger than all of them.
Much Bigger revenues. Bigger fanbase. Bigger stadium.
In what way are we not Bigger than them. By what metric?
If any of those were threatened by relegation the media attention would be a fraction of what we're getting. Because we're a bigger club that has only spent one season outside the top division in the last 80 years!
And, case in point. Leeds are in a relegation battle. With us.
Yet compare the media coverage between us and them! Of course we're a bigger fucking club
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Only 9th richest if you bring in the business revenue.
My clumsy comparison coming up.
TradePoint are a well performing company, within the Kingfisher group.
The Kingfisher group is massive, TradePoint is a small part of that. Can we all argue that TradePoint is massive because Kingfisher group are ?
TradePoint
Accept it’s a debatable, subjective point. And I feel maybe I need to add some context.
In my world, no one is bigger or better than us. I’d debate it with anyone and have strong arguments.
For example, historic stats prove that we have the second highest attendances over all, with United marginally above us. That’s fact. So we are on that metric massive.
But sadly, the world is not exactly as I see it and other fans would counter my confidence with, for example, who has won more league titles and European Championship, Villa or Spurs?
It’s Villa. So a Villa fan can successfully defend a PoV that they are “bigger”. Of course they are not…but you can see the point.
Here is another head fuck. In 2015-16 when Villa went down. Their average attendance was 33,690 in the same year ours was 34,947. There Stadium capacity was 42,000 at the time.
Leeds have won more league championships than Spurs and have won it three times since we last did. So a Leeds fan has a defensible argument that Leeds are more successful / bigger. We can counter this by saying they are a yo-yo club and they spent years in the Championship while we got rich coming 4/5/6 and sometimes higher sometimes lower.
Again, I am not suggesting I believe these clubs are “bigger” more pointing to that certain points of view exist that can argue they are. And that our plight is not unprecedented.
And I’d close by stating that some of the narrative around us at the moment is becoming a little gross, we are going through really tough times, but not unprecedented.
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Statically speaking Tottenham have had higher match day attendances than any club in British history bar Man United. But that would not mean we are a bigger club than Liverpool.
There are still quite a few winnable games left .... Wins against Forest, Wolves & Leeds would change everything.
Leeds were in financial turmoil because they spent money they didn't have on players in expectation of CL football and didn't get it.
Prior to their financial meltdown, they were on the verge of building a great team with players from the youth academy set up by Howard Wilkinson several years before. He was sacked before it came to fruition and he must be absolutely fuming at the way the club squandered everything he worked for. He was also the last manager to deliver them a trophy - the 1991/92 league championship.
Palace was supposed to be the most winnable game but VDV threw it down the toilet.
Yeah, I know how they went down, my dad is a Leeds fan and they were my second club as a kid. I'm saying in today's age, with the obscene money that PL clubs get, and the fact that we're the 9th richest club on the globe, to get relegated shouldn't happen. We almost couldn't Brewster's millions our way to financial turmoil.
We don't have anything like those issues, yet, they've still more likely than not, managed to do the unthinkable. Leeds gambled on being competitive (like the modern Villa), we've gambled on being cheap skates and are now paying that cost.
Those other clubs were on the point of financial ruin, Leeds and Villa that is. We're nothing like that.
To relegate us while we're taking in revenue like we are is mismanagement far above those clubs.
And we also failed to build a team around certain players like for example kane or Gareth Bale
Oh it's years of mismanagement, culminating into a fuck up of unthinkable proportions. Don't see a way back for us, and I don't even want to think about relying on the brain trust upstairs to guide us back.
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