He won't be here in the summer.
Save your whining.
Inter or Napoli are fucking welcome to the idiot.
Save your whining.
Inter or Napoli are fucking welcome to the idiot.
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Player Guglielmo Vicario
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It's an error.
It really isn't a huge blunder.
View: https://youtu.be/IkJ2QuKSnFU?si=JFRkIde_PMb0I9BA
These are huge errors and/or blunders.
I spotted Raya, Pickford, Alyson, Messier and Sanchez among these.
It was a bigger error giving Liverpool the FK in the first place.
Was a very solid goalkeeper early on imo. Now he seems to struggle with basics, guess kinksy last week was Tudor trying to give him a breather but Kinsky is semi pro level
Seemed it started with Man city and their last roll of the dice in an FA cup tie, decided to crowd the goalkeeper, wasn't penalized and they score from it.
Then Everton copied the exact same move a few days later and it worked again and it's been a downward spiral in his confidence since as everyone tries the same move on corners , and focusing on when he attempts to pass it out from the back
He definitely wants to leave I feel whether we stay up or not. His own club fans jeering him probably settled that awhile back
Seemed it started with Man city and their last roll of the dice in an FA cup tie, decided to crowd the goalkeeper, wasn't penalized and they score from it.
Then Everton copied the exact same move a few days later and it worked again and it's been a downward spiral in his confidence since as everyone tries the same move on corners , and focusing on when he attempts to pass it out from the back
He definitely wants to leave I feel whether we stay up or not. His own club fans jeering him probably settled that awhile back
In the first half yesterday, Vicario was stood on the ball, baiting the press (when we were 1-0 down). Liverpool deliberately went man-to-man and left Dragusin with 10 metres of space in the LCB position. We had aerial presence up top with Solanke and Richarlison waiting for the long ball. Vicario waited and waited and then, as the Liverpool players inched forwards, he rolled a slow, lazy pass to Dragusin who immediately was pressed. The weight of the pass was so poor Dragusin did not have time to take two or three touches he needs to get it onto his right foot (technical liability), so attempted to let the ball run across him onto his left foot to pass to the equally right footed and heavily marked Spence (playing on the left touchline). Because Dragusin is so technically incompetent he kicked it straight out of play. If he had succeeded in passing to the right footed Spence he would have had to take a touch back towards his own corner flag himself under severe pressure with only Dragusin to 'play out' with on that side of the pitch. WTF was Vicario thinking doing that?!?!?! He needs to be told to only pass the ball long when Dragusin is on the pitch. Not sure who I am more pissed off with. Dragusin (not really his fault he's shit and he tries his best, but maybe needs to practise kicking the ball against a wall only using his left foot for an hour a day to justify earning more in a couple of days than the average person gets in a year), Vicario (who is a flappy weak liability who is always quick to shout and wave his hands at others, espcially kids), or Tudor (who may have had to pick Dragusin due to injuries but could have told Vicario not to pass to him).
I'm going with Vicario.
I'm going with Vicario.
There was an article last week that outlined that this is exactly what has happened. And that some of the players that are in the "who cares about relegation I am leaving for bigger things" camp are meant to be among our so called leaders. With other players calling them out on it.
I'd argue Gollini balances that out though
It was a very rare error from a shot.
And I doubt even if Kinsky had not faced a shot on target - he would have played yesterday.
It was Tudor playing a different keeper for a different competition.
If this is true, and it's actually known, then any club would seriously have to consider suspending those players and telling the coach he's not to use them.
That's a huge accusation that players are willingly trying to get their team relegated to benefit themselves.
There's likely a crime being committed there tbh. If someone in a finance job was deliberately under performing to an extent that company went belly up, there's be an inquest.
I suspect the truth is a little more subtle. I suspect there is very definitely a whole host of players who are utterly disenfranchised from the club that they simply cannot motivate themselves to be better.
Being shit on purpose can be reversed. Being shit because you're having a crisis is not so easy.
Totally forgot about him. Top class loan that one.
I think he's actually got a bit better at dealing with corners... not great but not as big a problem as it was last season. The biggest issue for me is his positioning, his movement and his ability to strike fear into our defenders. He doesn't move his feet quick enough and for someone with his lack of positioning that his crucial. A good back 4/5 would be elevated into a superb back 4/5 if they had confidence that their keeper wasn't going to do something fucking stupid every match. Overall, I have seen better keepers in League 1. That fact Kinsky and for that matter Austin can't usurp him says more about our squad building than it does about Vic's lack of ability.
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That gave me a chuckle, sums him up.
I loved Gazzaniga as a no2.
I think goalkeeping as a whole is going through talent crisis, tbf. It must be if David Raya and Emiliano Martinez are mentioned as 2 of the best in the world.
I think football in general lacks the talent that has previously been there.
Watch a lot of goalkeepers now, they aren't trained to watch the flight of a corner, some simply watch who is looking to attack it, then prepare in the hope of making a reaction save.
Yeah, for some perspective, Gazz was a way better keeper than Vic.
When Lloris had a long-term injury, Gazz came in and did really well.
Gazzaniga was a better keeper then Vicario will ever be.
Downturn in goalkeeping talent can probably be spotted when everyone expected them to play as sweepers as well as keepers.
Still some excellent keepers around, but a huge drop off from the top half a dozen to everyone else. No consistent very good performers outwith these top few.