Honestly now - did you think we were in a relegation battle last season? Despite the losses, points total, league position, do you think we were in a relegation battle?
And how about this season?
I’m going to say no to last and yes to this. You?
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And how about this season?
I’m going to say no to last and yes to this. You?
Sacking Ange was still the correct decision, even if we do go down. He is a cunt and for that I will always dislike him.
The results did not improve as players returned in 2025. You and I both know thatYou mean the season BEFORE we lost four of our first choice Back 5 for three months?
Because before that we were doing just as well as - if not better - than Villa.
Derangers gonna Derange because lies and distortions is all they have.
Because the bottom 3 was the worst bottom 3 ever in a Premier league season doesn't excuse how bad we were last season.
This season has been horrific because the competition is better and we have still been bad.
Do you mean “no to last season and yes to this season”?
Ange was shit?
I thought we were in one both seasons. It's been worse this season but really that's nothing to do with our performances which have been about as shit this season as they were last season. We just lucked out with the bottom three last season.
Well obviously.
Would you be less worried about relegation if West Ham had 26 points
No, we weren’t in a relegation scrap last season. Just bullshit thrown about to complain about our league position. Which is quite enough to be going fucking mental about on its own, without having to make up shite about any relegation battle.
Of course I would be. The point is we weren’t worried about relegation last season, no matter where we finished and how many points we got.
But that was nothing to do with Ange or the players being better last season.
We've been fucking dreadful for two seasons and lucked out in the first season that there were three teams worse.
5th and a trophy
Because the competition was so bad not because we were better. We actually lost 2 of the relegated teams a d they were still miles behind us thats how bad they were.
We also smashed City 4-0 at their ground, Utd 3-0 at their ground, Villa 4-1, Everton 4-0...we haven't got anywhere close to those results and performances this season so...
Well this season we did beat city 2-0, Villa 2-1, Everton 3-0. all away.... them 3 results look pretty much identical to me
And United were shit last season.
Performances weren't anywhere close
And I don't remember anything resembling our hilariously low xg 'Performances' against Chelsea, Woolwich and Bournemouth, I don’t remember putting up stats like the entire team having less through balls than individual players on other teams either
Ive not said we were good this season just saying as bad as we've been we've still not lost 22 times.
We've actually only lost 4 more times than we did in Anges first season.
Jesus, he lost a lot
Yeah but we're going round in circles, you're doing the thing again of comparing season for season, 22 losses last season doesn't mean we haven't been as bad because we have been even worse than we were last season
Ultimately it's pointless debate regardless
Its quite remarkable.
Ok, but that’s a different argument. I only got involved because you said we’d be in a relegation scrap every season with 20 losses. Ange lost 22 and we weren’t, by your admission, in a relegation scrap. If you want to change the discussion, we can, but you’d have to reframe your argument.
I completely get what your saying but by losing 22 games its completely out of your hands whether you get relegated or not, you are literally opening the door to it waiting for someone else to take their chance, we got lucky.
I dont understand this notion that because it didn't feel like it, it wasnt an issue.
17th and fired.
His defenders say he threw games to win the cup.
Almost relegated us. Almost relegated Forest.
Made use of the progress Conte had made, but then oversaw a dreadful fall in form and effectiveness.
The only reason it wasn't worse is because we fired him before it could.