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I can’t wait for us to have yet another good tournament and for you to be wrong. Of course if the bar is “win the tournament” for success then you’ll probably claim being right .. as if every team that doesnt win the World Cup were terrible.

Physicality, speed, set pieces are what English football beats everyone else at right now. We’ve got two massive fullbacks who are also excellent, three fucking units who can also ball out in midfield, a proper CF who also happens to have feet made of silk.. we’ll be fine.

The tactic in the games you describe will be to not concede, drag teams in to the muck, and grab a set piece. We didn’t concede a single goal in qualifying.

Again, characterising Jude as someone who can’t do big things in big games .. what planet you on mate? Why would two of the fittest players on the planet “wilt in the heat” more than any of anyone else’s players?
I didn’t say Brentford quality but Brentford style. There is a distinction. It is a Brentford setup, which is downstream of a less expansive Woolwich setup.

We are trying to play Gooner football without Saliba, Gabriel, Timber, Calafiori or fucking hell even Ødegaard. What makes that team is their huge set piece threat and their impenetrable defense led by a tireless press. Where’s our big set piece threat? Are Guehi/Stones/Konsa anywhere near them two CBs? Sure, we’ve got Anderson and Rice; a top engine room to be sure, but neither are really creative midfielders or dictators of pace. And trust me, they will tire. We are leaning too heavily on that starting XI and only have middling replacement level depth now. There’s not a single game changer who can deal with a low block on the bench. Not a single one.

It’ll just look a lot like when Woolwich struggle to break open stubborn defenses. Constantly playing for the corner. And yes, Jude will be the central culprit of this. He is not a passer. He doesn’t unlock things. He doesn’t make quick decisions or unexpected passes. He’s essentially a thicker version of Dele with less pace.
 
I didn’t say Brentford quality but Brentford style. There is a distinction. It is a Brentford setup, which is downstream of a less expansive Woolwich setup.

We are trying to play Gooner football without Saliba, Gabriel, Timber, Calafiori or fucking hell even Ødegaard. What makes that team is their huge set piece threat and their impenetrable defense led by a tireless press. Where’s our big set piece threat? Are Guehi/Stones/Konsa anywhere near them two CBs? Sure, we’ve got Anderson and Rice; a top engine room to be sure, but neither are really creative midfielders or dictators of pace. And trust me, they will tire. We are leaning too heavily on that starting XI and only have middling replacement level depth now. There’s not a single game changer who can deal with a low block on the bench. Not a single one.

It’ll just look a lot like when Woolwich struggle to break open stubborn defenses. Constantly playing for the corner. And yes, Jude will be the central culprit of this. He is not a passer. He doesn’t unlock things. He doesn’t make quick decisions or unexpected passes. He’s essentially a thicker version of Dele with less pace.

Woolwich won the league, are CL finalists, league cup finalists and fa cup semi finalists. Yes please Tuchel, copy them.

Oh no, we don’t have Odegaard .. no we just have Jude motherfucking Bellingham and Eze (who replaced Odegaard FFS) . Oh and instead of Timber we have James. And we have Harry Kane, not Gyokores. Rashford, not Martinelli. Anderson, not Zubimendi. Guehi is extremely good, one of the best centre backs in the league. And we have Man City’s starting left back who ended the season with numerous clutch goals, calafiori? I think we’ll be fine.

Yes there is. Eze = more goals from outside the box than any other player. A perfect low block beater.

Yeah, and still winning. We have weaknesses (so do Woolwich) so you maximise your strengths and play off them. Which is what Tuchel, a CL winning coach, is going to do.

Jude is one of the best players in the world and his all round game and tactical awareness are levels above dele. Such a silly comparison. Dele was purely end product - Bellingham legitimately can play any midfield role. I fear you rarely if ever watch him because it’s embarrassing to hear this as if a guy a whole season ago who was a ballon d’or shortlist player at that age with those numbers is some mug.

Real Madrid fans don’t tolerate the player you describe. Instead they love Jude. Because he is a world class, complete midfielder.
 
James and Anderson with Rogers and Bellingham further forward ... almost a 4222. Rice isn't good enough with the ball.

Hahahaha some people in this thread.

Rice isn’t good enough with the ball?! Holy cope, if he’s good enough for PL & CL TOTY he’s probably “good enough with the ball” to play for England.

Just say you don’t like him because of the team he plays for and move on. Don’t try to rationalise the bias.
 
England squad for Euro 2012:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Woolwich), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Woolwich), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)
Happy for Welbeck to get in. Had a good season
 
Hahahaha some people in this thread.

Rice isn’t good enough with the ball?! Holy cope, if he’s good enough for PL & CL TOTY he’s probably “good enough with the ball” to play for England.

Just say you don’t like him because of the team he plays for and move on. Don’t try to rationalise the bias.

Hope Crockett Crockett doesn’t slag off Saka or it will ruin your night!!!

Lmfao 🤣

suffolkSpur88 suffolkSpur88
 
Rashford has 16 g/a in 31 games, the midfield all pop up with goals, Saka has clearly been unfit/injured most of the season and has only just been revitalised..

You also don’t need that many goals around Kane. You need to play in a way that services him as he can do the job of 2 goalscorers. The team is setup to get goals from the world’s best goalscorer.

Fair point on rashford

Don't agree Saka it's to do with fitness... its a general thing in the prem this season with wide players.. just but that many open play goal involvements in general from that position.

We will get to the semis most probably, just very little hope of much else with this team
 
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