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Transfers Summer 2026 Transfer Thread

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I dont belive a word of it despite what his glee club think most fans here think he is a joke. He will not move to an English club but Id drive him to Manchester if it was on.
I’ve just had a follow up:

‘Why oh why oh why fuck!’

‘We don’t need another bloody walking Red Card that’s before we even talk about the attitude.’

‘Can you imagine a centre half pairing of him and HM?’


I get the impression he’s not chuffed by the link! 😂
 
OMFG.
IF (again massive IF) we sign Wilson then he would exactly be that kind of player with whom there would be no remorse at all when he plays 200 minutes.

But the moment you sign two starting quality players - say Marmoush and Savinho mentioned by someone else - it will be game over for Tel and Odobert for good with us, it is guaranteed.

I am literally describing option that would give Tel and Odobert more chance to succeed, but you just keep repeating how Wilson would block their path. When actually it is 180 degrees opposite.

If Wilson is so disposable, why even bother?

OMFG, You either did not read or did not try to understand 😜

My objection to Wilson
-I dont think he's that good
-Id rather give the opportunity to someone like Tel
-At 29, and a free transfer he'll be looking for big £££ - which I think will make it hard to move him on (when we inevitably want to)
-The whole thing just feels like short termist squad filler, and I dont think its worth it

So, we sign Wilson, just for the sake of it apparently, and while Kudus is injured (we assume) Wilson plays = Tel doesnt

Then when Kudus is fit - Tel is even further down the order with Wilson presumably ahead of him

Unless Tel does better than Wilson, pushes ahead - at which point - we have the needless and hard to move on squad filler issue already raised


So - in the event there arent high quality additions we can make, I much prefer the option of passing on a Wilson and giving Tel a real chance

However, in the event there is a genuine high quality addition we can make - then the equation changes - and we may decide to take the obvious step up, knowing it will likely cost us Tel/his opportunities

Everything is a cost/benefit discussion, isnt it? And for me that just doesnt balance with Wilson at all, apparently for you it does
 
Short of a 10, missing another winger I think

Hard to call when we just dont know the actual status of Kudus, Kulusevski and Odobert

Could be we REALLY need another winger, could be, actually - things arent too bad

Communication from the club could really help on that

Is anyone else getting PTSD flashbacks whenever we’re linked with this Bahoya guy? Another young winger from France…

After Njie, Nkoudou, Odobert, and Tel, I’m already scared at the thought of us going for him.

If it was N'Bahoya then yes, absolutely

As its just Bahoya Ill assume he is world class and we should buy him
 
Has his end product been really poor though?

I think when he was counted on and given a clear run of games he performed very well - was positive, made things happen, showed good 1v1 ability and scored an important golazo. He was our primary goal threat (not saying much obviously) and he outperformed Kolo Muani - who is 5 years more experienced, has played in a WC final etc…

Statistically I think he performs quite well compared to other U-21 inside forwards / wingers. He strikes the ball beautifully and will be dangerous coming off the left. So much to like about him. I don't get the extreme negativity by some.

Similarly I was very high on Odobert when he was shifted to the right side, just before his knee exploded 💀

Yes.
In fact it has been total dogshit.
What is the point of comparing him against U21? We are not in U21 league.

Tel has had 2255 minutes for us in EPL. Scored 6 goals and provided 3 assists. Goals include penalty against Southampton.
So 5 non penalty goals and 3 assists. Either 9 or 8 goal contributions - that is a goal contribution for every 250 minutes or 281 minutes - whichever you prefer.

So if he plays like this one whole season, every minute of every game it will give you 13,7 goals (or 12,1 if we exclude mentioned penalty) / assists across whole season. Say 8 goals and 6 assists.
As I mentioned, Wilson has scored or assisted once every 154 minutes that is 22,2 goals / assists per full season. Pretty remarkable difference.

One can be "beautiful" and "strike well" and other be a "meh signing" but that is 9 goals from one position more. IF (!) he signs and Tel does not improve. Of course I too hope that younger player will step up his game and start contributing much more and takes the starting winger position for himself. But we cannot just base squad planning on hope without plan B.
 
Looks decent TBF

40-50 mill??.....I'd rather pay an extra 20 for Scott though. PL proven, very talented, Tottenham fan, he can be our main midfield general for the next 5-7 years
Wouldn't mind Alex Scott although I'd prefer Manzambis offensive output. Scored some screamer this year to really decide games, e.g. the Europa League semi final. A real game winner at the age of 20 being able to play at 6, 8, false 9 or even on the wings. Impressed nearly every time I see him. No coincidence he is linked with Real and Man United. Really interested how he will do at the World Cup.
 
Yes.

Knowing what sits in De Zerbi's mind is probably the bit that makes views, more or less on-point in many respects.

You are expressing a preference in how you want us to progress as opposed to anything else. Not short-term fixes but longer term fruition, if maybe achieved more steadily, and with our younger players forming a strong part of that direction. It's understandable.

None of it seems to however acknowledge that if at the end of pre-season training (or before), De Zerbi says thinks thanks but not good enough, so ciao.

On the Robertson signing, 100% agree. It's a bit difficult to decode.

Managers need to be backed as there is no point in bringing them in otherwise. To what extent might be dictated by the circumstances they arrived in.

I would like to believe that before we signed or sold anyone, even more so than if we loaned younger players out for a period, tha it would only occur after through and rigorous consideration, as well as some form of justification..

Im certainly not in the "youth is the only way" kind of thinking, or anything like that

I do like the idea of a decent youth policy, of promoting and developing players, but of course that should be alongside proper squad building including senior players etc...

Im no zealot, a lot of how I feel right now is because we clearly started down a path of signing these players - now I feel we have a certain responsibility to them/to see it through

I know there will be casualties in this group, some their own fault - some ours

But over all, I just want to see some joined up thinking, rather than the reactive nature we have seen the last years

And ultimately, at this time, RDZ's judgement is the only thing that matters - we have to roll with whatever he wants (although might not like it all!)
 
One can be "beautiful" and "strike well" and other be a "meh signing" but that is 9 goals from one position more. IF (!) he signs and Tel does not improve. Of course I too hope that younger player will step up his game and start contributing much more and takes the starting winger position for himself. But we cannot just base squad planning on hope without plan B.

And this is the issue with plain stats, theres really no context, is there?

Wilson is playing under a manager who has been at the club 5 years (I think), where he has been there just as long

Settled squad, system, set up - and he had a very good season in that environment

Tel had none of those advantages, did he?, to my mind that suggests his return isnt as bad as the stats tell us

Next season Tel (in the example) will be in a more settled set up, playing progressive football, in a proper structure - who is to say he wont step up? wont do as well?

Just as - who is to say Wilson fits RDZ's style and does as well as before without dropping off?

(this is really the one properly good season Wilson has had, every other has been consistently a lower output in the prem - hence me expecting him to regress to the mean)

((their last season in the Championship his numbers were ridiculous))
 
He made three or four big mistakes in the last few weeks of the season that resulted in goals which Romero would have been crucified far.

Always thought Van Hecke was decent but not great, might go up a level with a move but the valuation with one year left is wild. Hes a good player and will be a good signing but footballing wise Romero is better. The fans have turned on Romero so it’s probably the right thing to do anyway.

"decent but not great"

Oh....

Let's slot in Ben Davies instead.


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If Wilson is so disposable, why even bother?

OMFG, You either did not read or did not try to understand 😜

My objection to Wilson
-I dont think he's that good
-Id rather give the opportunity to someone like Tel
-At 29, and a free transfer he'll be looking for big £££ - which I think will make it hard to move him on (when we inevitably want to)
-The whole thing just feels like short termist squad filler, and I dont think its worth it

So, we sign Wilson, just for the sake of it apparently, and while Kudus is injured (we assume) Wilson plays = Tel doesnt

Then when Kudus is fit - Tel is even further down the order with Wilson presumably ahead of him

Unless Tel does better than Wilson, pushes ahead - at which point - we have the needless and hard to move on squad filler issue already raised


So - in the event there arent high quality additions we can make, I much prefer the option of passing on a Wilson and giving Tel a real chance

However, in the event there is a genuine high quality addition we can make - then the equation changes - and we may decide to take the obvious step up, knowing it will likely cost us Tel/his opportunities

Everything is a cost/benefit discussion, isnt it? And for me that just doesnt balance with Wilson at all, apparently for you it does

Why bother?

For insurance reason! I am sure I mentioned the term "insurance" many times.
To literally use him (or someone else like him) as insurance so that when actually young hopefuls like Tel will not improve- then we have alternative. It is as simple as that.

You keep saying "Id rather give the opportunity to someone like Tel" - I agree with that. I would still use him as a starter. And only switch to Wilson if he does not improve. With your view we would not have an alternative. With mine we would have.

Let's look at very pragmatically - you mention "big money" - well first of all I have multiple times said that I would not go for him at any cost. He is currently at 2,8 mil pound / so ~54 thousand per week. He is no Mbappe nor Kane to demand something unrealistic. So I would assuming we would pay him 4,5 mil per year - that is nothing compared to getting so close to relegation last year around (and risking with 250 mil loss). And as someone mentioned that "he would become obsolete soon" - to which I reply - perfect. That would be awesome outcome. Then we can sell/release him to promoted team as soon as that happens. So what. You also claim that "its hard to move him on" - I can't see that happening - who was last HG player capable of scoring and assisting we failed to move on? We even got 35 mil for Johnson this season after he fell down the pecking order...

Your explanation also kind of proves that you did not fully read what I wrote. Where you say "So, we sign Wilson, just for the sake of it apparently, and while Kudus is injured (we assume) Wilson plays = Tel doesnt" which is exactly the opposite what I have repeated - I would give Tel benefit of the doubt and first chance to impress. But only when he still does not deliver the goals and assist - then we would have an alternative.

Again - for maybe 10th time - I am not saying that Wilson would be my dream signing.
I am just using him as an example of hedging bets. I feel that you prefer "all or nothing" approach. Which to me is suicidal on the back of 2 17th place finishes.
I am ONLY promoting such kind of deal to have MORE SPENDING POWER elsewhere and to get more data on the young prospects that we already have on the books. If we are to make final decision on Odobert and Tel based on what we have seen so far - it would be to axe them, feels pretty clear.
 
And this is the issue with plain stats, theres really no context, is there?

Wilson is playing under a manager who has been at the club 5 years (I think), where he has been there just as long

Settled squad, system, set up - and he had a very good season in that environment

Tel had none of those advantages, did he?, to my mind that suggests his return isnt as bad as the stats tell us

Next season Tel (in the example) will be in a more settled set up, playing progressive football, in a proper structure - who is to say he wont step up? wont do as well?

Just as - who is to say Wilson fits RDZ's style and does as well as before without dropping off?

(this is really the one properly good season Wilson has had, every other has been consistently a lower output in the prem - hence me expecting him to regress to the mean)

((their last season in the Championship his numbers were ridiculous))

Short - you want to gamble "What if Tel improves" without alternative to fall back on.
I say - "sure, let's gamble. Let's use Tel as a starter in beginning of next season. But lets also buy a cheapish insurance policy".

Also I have absolutely no clue why you keep throwing around terms like "regressing to the mean" like I would be focusing in last season with my numbers. When in fact I am talking about 5 season average.
 
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