a man who wants to relive past ventures has no ambition.
-
The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...
Baldini Out
- Thread starter DanishPastry
- Start date
Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports
There's been some speculation this week about Baldini's position - I'm torn as to whether I want him around for next year. On the one hand, he's spent £100m without much of a return, particularly on our three biggest signings - Lamela, Soldado and Paulinho. Capoue hasn't shown much, Eriksen has shown a lot while Chiriches and Chadli have good games and bad. Undoubtedly a mixed bag - and a bloody big mixed bag for the number of incoming players. All of which has translated to a poor season, even if we did finish 6th, have European football and so on.
On the other hand, Directors of Football who preside over transfers can't really be judged this soon to their acquisitions. Soldado may yet come good, Lamela may fulfil his promise. If we sack Baldini tomorrow and a year from now, all of those players are firing (unlikely, I know) - we'd probably regret that decision. I am always reminded of Comolli who, despite his flaws, made a number of signings who shone after his departure.
The other confounding issue for me is Baldini's offer to resign as AVB was sacked. As DoF, he's meant to be there long term to oversee the players coming and going while the managerial position remains something of a hot seat. If he's got itchy feet as soon as it comes to that, is this the man to occupy that position?
I remain unconvinced either way, frankly. I think a DoF position is necessary as no manager is likely to be given enough time to build 'his' squad at White Hart Lane but we do need some continuity. I don't know who we'd get instead of Baldini, though.
On the other hand, Directors of Football who preside over transfers can't really be judged this soon to their acquisitions. Soldado may yet come good, Lamela may fulfil his promise. If we sack Baldini tomorrow and a year from now, all of those players are firing (unlikely, I know) - we'd probably regret that decision. I am always reminded of Comolli who, despite his flaws, made a number of signings who shone after his departure.
The other confounding issue for me is Baldini's offer to resign as AVB was sacked. As DoF, he's meant to be there long term to oversee the players coming and going while the managerial position remains something of a hot seat. If he's got itchy feet as soon as it comes to that, is this the man to occupy that position?
I remain unconvinced either way, frankly. I think a DoF position is necessary as no manager is likely to be given enough time to build 'his' squad at White Hart Lane but we do need some continuity. I don't know who we'd get instead of Baldini, though.
To be fair, I think Baldini offered to resign as:
a) He was requested by AVB who left
b) His signings failed to produce and lead to AVB leaving
He's got integrity and takes responsibility, so can't fault him tbh. Like you say, despite the pitchforks for Soldado et al*, they may have a great 2nd season and show Baldini got it
*yeah that's right Gibbs, I used it again
Many of his signing were inexplicably rotting away under AVB. 100% AVB's fault for how he handled Lamela, Chadli, Capoue, Eriksen etc and went for the Townsends, Siggy's, Lennons and Defoe's instead.
The right person was let go. Thank god. AVB = dunce.
Spotted and jotted on a flight to barca.
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
Spotted and jotted on a flight to barca.
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
Fuck me. Jackie Chan. Good spot.
Spotted and jotted on a flight to barca.
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
Is Michael Douglas allowed to sell our players?
Airport? Check.Spotted and jotted on a flight to barca.
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
Suspect on the phone? Check.
Grainy camera phone pic? Check.
That is vintage ITK
Why does everyone "ITK" have such a shitty camera on their phone? That is borderline original iPhone quality.
The K doesn't stand for Kash...
If they actually knew something worth knowing they wouldn't be spewing it online for free.
No offence, TFC.
Apparently off to have dinner with Luis Enrique, whom Baldini described as the best manager he's ever worked with. Unsurprisingly, not as kind words for both Tim and AVB (which with regards to the latter is perfectly in line with what I heard through the grapevine via a source)Spotted and jotted on a flight to barca.
So is that Lloris or Vertonghen out the door?
:vert::llorisserious:
We have our old scout back now, to help spot top players (Broomfield? Name escapes me)
Baldini has shown he gets deals done.
Between them I have hope things can go well.
As an aside, this summer Baldini has had a year to prep himself. He pulled 7 players last year, did the business side brilliantly, and to be fair all 7 have merit (and IMO will do better this year). Im interested to see what he can do having settled in.
Baldini has shown he gets deals done.
Between them I have hope things can go well.
As an aside, this summer Baldini has had a year to prep himself. He pulled 7 players last year, did the business side brilliantly, and to be fair all 7 have merit (and IMO will do better this year). Im interested to see what he can do having settled in.
It's a big year for him. I am a supporter that hasn't expected anything of our new signings this year as I believe it takes a year for a player to settle. So with this in mind this year is when I think his signings are expected to perform and therefore we can start to judge him.
Perhaps bigger than that though would be how he and Pochettino work together. As DoF I suspect he had a significant input into the decision to bring him in. Given who we signed last year, the systems that these players played in before ariving at WHL (with the exception of Soldado) I can see them fitting into a system under the new coach. Basically I see small glimpses of a plan/style and with every new signing (coach and player) that fits into this plan/style the picture should get clearer.