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From the 2014 end of season article.

Combined XI: Team of Premier League top dribblers. Featuring Eden Hazard, Luis Suarez and Ross Barkley


Dembele, 5 of 11. "Dembele has completed the most take-ons for Tottenham Hotspur this season, along with Andros Townsend. The 26-year-old has a success rate of 83% and rarely fails to emerge with the ball following a one on one situation."

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This doesn't cite where he's taking those men on, as no one is debating his ability to beat his man in the middle third. The point was against his ability in the final third (back line), where he has an even higher success rate since he almost never takes his man on.
 
Which yet further serves my point since you've removed all context. Thanks mate.

You want context? I posted this:

"He said Dembele had a "restrictive skillset". He is our most well rounded player IMO. What restricted him was AVB. ‘The coach has explained that he makes a tactical choice, he wants more defensive players in midfield,’ he said. ‘I can’t be satisfied with it, of course, I just want to play as many games.’"

And for some reason you thought that was not "appropriate dialogue". Even though in the same post you said I was nit picking in desperation.

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You want context? I posted this:

"He said Dembele had a "restrictive skillset". He is our most well rounded player IMO. What restricted him was AVB. ‘The coach has explained that he makes a tactical choice, he wants more defensive players in midfield,’ he said. ‘I can’t be satisfied with it, of course, I just want to play as many games.’"

And for some reason you thought that was not "appropriate dialogue". Even though in the same paragraph you said I was nit picking in desperation.

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Exactly, in a whole thread full of views from others making opinions you've adamantly expressed disagreement with. And you targeted my post with one comment from the article despite my prefacing with "almost entirely." Whether you believe it or not is entirely fine, but it's yet another chapter in the recent series of you hunting my posts and attempting to discredit me specifically. For the sake of this forum, please stop.
 
And you targeted my post with one comment from the article despite my prefacing with "almost entirely." Whether you believe it or not is entirely fine, but it's yet another chapter in the recent series of you hunting my posts and attempting to discredit me specifically. For the sake of this forum, please stop.

I was disagreeing with the person who wrote the article.

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Whatever, guy. This forum is now littered with your elicited attacks on my posts

Lets see...This is you to me in the past 24 hours:

Whatever, guy. This forum is now littered with your elicited attacks on my posts, even as of this morning. The trend is what you've established. Your childishness with the accumulating Kaboul heads doesn't help your case out either.

Exactly, in a whole thread full of views from others making opinions you've adamantly expressed disagreement with. And you targeted my post with one comment from the article despite my prefacing with "almost entirely." Whether you believe it or not is entirely fine, but it's yet another chapter in the recent series of you hunting my posts and attempting to discredit me specifically. For the sake of this forum, please stop.

Which yet further serves my point since you've removed all context. Thanks mate.


Come now, let's not try your typical twisting. Move on.

Ah, nit-picking now in your desperation.

Gibbs, we've been over this a merciless amount of times and every time you flaunt your inability in reading comprehension. If you want to chalk that to up to being pretentious, then so be it. But I'm weary of having to repeat myself because you cannot or refuse to appropriately read points made to you.

And yes, I have never seen you once discuss cause and effect in tangible terms, so I do believe you lack understanding in many complexities of this game. This is more than sufficient evidence to it:

Your abstracted connections made by failure to connect obvious dots are always amusing. But nonetheless, evidence that you're hopeless to discuss these things with.

Well this sums things up quite nicely per my issues with Gibbs, as I've nicely mentioned these same points almost exactly paraphrased to him in the past (albeit pre-Poch to use a specific coach as an example) and he's argued with it while giving you a "like." :rolleyes: What an interesting bloke, indeed.

You know good n well it's not your information I take issue with here, it was your manner of response and delivery.

Even if that is what he actually believed verbatim, you've had far more ridiculous and "obtuse" ideas on here be treated with far more decency and respect in the responses than you afforded CJ with this one. Your behavior on this discussion is inexcusable, and no one will take it seriously if your point is delivered in such a manner. If you continue to argue this, you will only be digging yourself a deeper hole, so I suggest you drop it and discuss the real topic at hand in an appropriate manner.

Your desperation is showing Gibbsy ol boy. How about you mature a bit and move on?

This is absolutely incorrect, and it's easily identified as such by anyone who's sufficiently read through this thread, so I shan't merit it the response you were hoping to galvanize.

I'm curious Gibbs, are you a fan of American football and/or rugby? I think those may a bit more suitable to your tastes and understanding of sport.

Gibbs, there is absolutely no excuse for the manner in which you responded to a post simply pointing out rules and numbers, nor in the manner in which you've continued this debate. Abhorrent behavior for a discussion, and that's even by your own standards.
 
And the previous few days you said to me:

You are a walking pile of misinformed and delusional bullshit, don't give us that insolent crock of nonsense.

You've never schooled me in a fucking thing you utter git. The fact you still believe that proves only your selective and poor reading, and I can assure you I've never been taught a single thing by a person of such helpless inabilities.

And hence this stupid shit you've continued to push. Come off it, it makes you look almost as ridiculous as the drug-fuelled rot you've dumped today in this thread.

Jesus Christ. Why do you refuse to READ?! Thank you though, as you just reemphasized my point about you being misinformed and delusional. Fucking LOL at you being a realist, that's like Hitler claiming to be a philanthropist. You are fully incapable of seeing beyond what's on the surface, and that along with my resentment of you continuing to dig and spread bullshit is exactly why we continue having these discussions.

Haha what a crock of typical bullshit. Pointing out the obvious, surface points while completely ignoring the points you've made we've called you out for being delusional about.

I'd be stunned if your IQ is above 90, and that's no exaggeration. Please go read a book and leave this board alone.

You genuinely have zero capacity to think beyond what's in front of your eyes don't you?

Lol you're such a dumb cunt.
 
Lets see...This is you to me in the past 24 hours:

Whatever, guy. This forum is now littered with your elicited attacks on my posts, even as of this morning. The trend is what you've established. Your childishness with the accumulating Kaboul heads doesn't help your case out either.

Exactly, in a whole thread full of views from others making opinions you've adamantly expressed disagreement with. And you targeted my post with one comment from the article despite my prefacing with "almost entirely." Whether you believe it or not is entirely fine, but it's yet another chapter in the recent series of you hunting my posts and attempting to discredit me specifically. For the sake of this forum, please stop.

Which yet further serves my point since you've removed all context. Thanks mate.


Come now, let's not try your typical twisting. Move on.

Ah, nit-picking now in your desperation.

Gibbs, we've been over this a merciless amount of times and every time you flaunt your inability in reading comprehension. If you want to chalk that to up to being pretentious, then so be it. But I'm weary of having to repeat myself because you cannot or refuse to appropriately read points made to you.

And yes, I have never seen you once discuss cause and effect in tangible terms, so I do believe you lack understanding in many complexities of this game. This is more than sufficient evidence to it:

Your abstracted connections made by failure to connect obvious dots are always amusing. But nonetheless, evidence that you're hopeless to discuss these things with.

Well this sums things up quite nicely per my issues with Gibbs, as I've nicely mentioned these same points almost exactly paraphrased to him in the past (albeit pre-Poch to use a specific coach as an example) and he's argued with it while giving you a "like." :rolleyes: What an interesting bloke, indeed.

You know good n well it's not your information I take issue with here, it was your manner of response and delivery.

Even if that is what he actually believed verbatim, you've had far more ridiculous and "obtuse" ideas on here be treated with far more decency and respect in the responses than you afforded CJ with this one. Your behavior on this discussion is inexcusable, and no one will take it seriously if your point is delivered in such a manner. If you continue to argue this, you will only be digging yourself a deeper hole, so I suggest you drop it and discuss the real topic at hand in an appropriate manner.

Your desperation is showing Gibbsy ol boy. How about you mature a bit and move on?

This is absolutely incorrect, and it's easily identified as such by anyone who's sufficiently read through this thread, so I shan't merit it the response you were hoping to galvanize.

I'm curious Gibbs, are you a fan of American football and/or rugby? I think those may a bit more suitable to your tastes and understanding of sport.

Gibbs, there is absolutely no excuse for the manner in which you responded to a post simply pointing out rules and numbers, nor in the manner in which you've continued this debate. Abhorrent behavior for a discussion, and that's even by your own standards.

Right, once again we've been over this. Every single one of those is in direct response to your attacking either myself or someone else, or one of them related to a previously held conversation consisting of your initial attacks. I have never begun any of the attacks in any of our discussions, and in the rare circumstances when I have picked out your posts for the first time in a thread it consists of a genuine question and civil discussion. You have in every single example been the instigator of conflict.

I suggest you stop trying, for you have failed in every single attempt to discredit me. Amidst all of this, I have offered you repeated opportunities for genuine dialogue which you have refused. I have asked you genuine questions which you have responded to with blatant disrespect and ignorance, often laced with insults to my ideas. Your desperation is ridiculous, and the sooner you end it the sooner you can repair your image on this forum. We can coexist here, but the choice is yours and only yours. The ball is in your court, and I would like to invite you to be wise with your next move and end this absurdity.
 
So in between calling me a dumb cunt etc...Why do you lecture board etiquette to me?

I was never the first to insult intelligences. Each and every one of those responses in your second post was in direct response to your personal attacks. My board etiquette here has never been in your question. You however, have faced the sin-bin for obvious reasons.

End this nonsense, so we can both move on.
 
Lets see...This is you to me in the past 24 hours:

Whatever, guy. This forum is now littered with your elicited attacks on my posts, even as of this morning. The trend is what you've established. Your childishness with the accumulating Kaboul heads doesn't help your case out either.

Exactly, in a whole thread full of views from others making opinions you've adamantly expressed disagreement with. And you targeted my post with one comment from the article despite my prefacing with "almost entirely." Whether you believe it or not is entirely fine, but it's yet another chapter in the recent series of you hunting my posts and attempting to discredit me specifically. For the sake of this forum, please stop.

Which yet further serves my point since you've removed all context. Thanks mate.


Come now, let's not try your typical twisting. Move on.

Ah, nit-picking now in your desperation.

Gibbs, we've been over this a merciless amount of times and every time you flaunt your inability in reading comprehension. If you want to chalk that to up to being pretentious, then so be it. But I'm weary of having to repeat myself because you cannot or refuse to appropriately read points made to you.

And yes, I have never seen you once discuss cause and effect in tangible terms, so I do believe you lack understanding in many complexities of this game. This is more than sufficient evidence to it:

Your abstracted connections made by failure to connect obvious dots are always amusing. But nonetheless, evidence that you're hopeless to discuss these things with.

Well this sums things up quite nicely per my issues with Gibbs, as I've nicely mentioned these same points almost exactly paraphrased to him in the past (albeit pre-Poch to use a specific coach as an example) and he's argued with it while giving you a "like." :rolleyes: What an interesting bloke, indeed.

You know good n well it's not your information I take issue with here, it was your manner of response and delivery.

Even if that is what he actually believed verbatim, you've had far more ridiculous and "obtuse" ideas on here be treated with far more decency and respect in the responses than you afforded CJ with this one. Your behavior on this discussion is inexcusable, and no one will take it seriously if your point is delivered in such a manner. If you continue to argue this, you will only be digging yourself a deeper hole, so I suggest you drop it and discuss the real topic at hand in an appropriate manner.

Your desperation is showing Gibbsy ol boy. How about you mature a bit and move on?

This is absolutely incorrect, and it's easily identified as such by anyone who's sufficiently read through this thread, so I shan't merit it the response you were hoping to galvanize.

I'm curious Gibbs, are you a fan of American football and/or rugby? I think those may a bit more suitable to your tastes and understanding of sport.

Gibbs, there is absolutely no excuse for the manner in which you responded to a post simply pointing out rules and numbers, nor in the manner in which you've continued this debate. Abhorrent behavior for a discussion, and that's even by your own standards.

Fucking hell mate, about an hour ago I came out of my last undergrad Lit exam of the year, and I honestly think you put more effort into that then I did my whole essay. Cahspur is a good poster imho, if you disagree with him so vividly either move on or dm him, Jesus.
 
Fucking hell mate, about an hour ago I came out of my last undergrad Lit exam of the year, and I honestly think you put more effort into that then I did my whole essay. Cahspur is a good poster imho, if you disagree with him so vividly either move on or dm him, Jesus.

If someone talks so much shit, calls me a troll, cunt etc. It's nice to point out that Dembele is in the top 11 for beating players when he claims he lacks penetration.
 
If someone talks so much shit, calls me a troll, cunt etc. It's nice to point out that Dembele is in the top 11 for beating players when he claims he lacks penetration.

If you didn't initially attack with your ridiculous allegations and your dispelled points such as this one about Dembele we would have zero conflict. Zero. The choice is entirely up to you. You are not the victim here, you are the instigator. Accept it, and move on.
 
Dembele for me is like a Berbatov of the midfield his got all the tricks in the book without the conviction, I swear if he was less likable people would call him lazy.

I just dn't get players like him it's like they have a glass ceiling or something, they easily be world class but they just don't have the drive.

For all the talk of toure's laziness he atleast can switch on his world class abilty for a moment, Dembele seems to not want to use that switch at all.

In this age a midfielder is as important as any striker as shown by toure and ramsey, but rarely does dembele have those kinda performances. If I could I would put Townsends bravery into Dembele's body, then we would have a monster on the field.

His still good tho it's just that its hard to see players he could easily be better than outshine him during the season eg. Henderson and Ramsey.
 
Dembele for me is like a Berbatov of the midfield his got all the tricks in the book without the conviction, I swear if he was less likable people would call him lazy.

I just dn't get players like him it's like they have a glass ceiling or something, they easily be world class but they just don't have the drive.

He was used as a DM. So compared to Paulinho who was given more rope, Dembele only had 14 shots at goal. This along with his heat maps etc tells you (and he will himself) that he was used in a defensive midfield role.

You are right about the glass ceiling. That was DM tactics shackling him. To put it in perspective, Bentaleb has played 11 games, and had more shots at goal than Dembele who's had twice as many games.
 
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