Sounds a bit like the others you mentioned.
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Ex-Spurs Player DeAndre Yedlin
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No doubt, but we are talking MLS vs. Premier League here. Big difference between being run ragged by Raheem Sterling and, ummmm Nigel Reo-Coker.
He's fast he's got good core strength and good crossing, he will fit in well in the Prem im sure Poch will help with the technical side of his game, will also make him faster too which is mad!
He has certainly improved his corssing from last season, but calling him a good crosser is still a stretch. The jury is still out on that. Seattle doesn't really build their attacks from the wings/fullbacks. Much of the optomism in his attacking game is purely conjecture at this point. What he has is ridiculous speed and good balance/strength. These things you can't coach but if Poch is the player developer he got credit for at Soton it'll be exciting to see what he can do with Yedlin. However, he is currently nowhere near Premier League level skillwise.
Of course we're also talking about the Premier League vs. Portugal Germany and Belgium here. We've seen a small sample of what Yedlin can do against elite competition and it was an enormous success.
There's no way I would play Naughton or Chiriches ahead of Yedlin at fullback, at least initially. If he struggles, that's a different story, but cross that bridge when you come to it rather than trotting a known poor option out there.
Or if you want to loan him out to get more games, fine.
All games where he came on when America were chasing a goal. He didn't have to do much defensive work in those games although I was thoroughly impressed with his performance against Belgium.
Of the three the only game where he really stood out was Belgium, which is the game that proved he probably can be schooled to be a PL level right back. Portugal and Germany games he played wing and only played 20 minutes and <10 minutes respectively. If based on that you are ready to throw him in at right back over Naughton, Chriches or even Kyle Walker-Peters at this point, well, I'm glad you aren't managing.
I like Yedlin and am excited that he is coming our way, but there is a good chunk of my fellow American Spurs supporters that need to take a deep breath and regain some perspective in this situation.
I'm not suggesting for a second that we start him over Walker, although it should be noted that Walker has frequently struggled with some of the same issues that you're saying make Yedlin unplayable. (American unplayable, not English unplayable)
Again, Walker has struggled with those issues at times at the Premier League level. Yedlin at the MLS level. I'm no hater on the MLS, it has come a long way but there is still a HUGE gap between the leagues. Even if you for some reason don't believe that look at the adjustment period to the Premier League that players from other top level leagues have needed. There is just simply no logical basis for saying Yedlin should be above Naughton, Dier, Chiriches, Fredericks, KWP yet. You are basing this off one impressive performance in the World Cup, but the larger body of evidence shows that he is just too raw at this point to consider for the first team IMO. As a fan of Tottenham and of US Soccer I'd of course love to be proven wrong but I think the only people sitting on the other side of the argument are overly excited American fans.
You want me to disagree with this so very very badly, but it's not going to happen.
Also, there is no logical basis to suggest that Yedlin should be ahead of Ryan Fredricks, who is not currently a Spurs player, or KWP, a 17 year old who has never played a single game at the senior level? I humbly disagree and suggest that you are Euro-snobbing about as hard as humanly possible right now.
I don't really care if you disagree, I was posting it as a fact. It's not even a matter of "Euro-snobbing" as I think there is always an adjustemnt period between different leagues as stated above. The fact is KWP and Yedlin have exactly the same amount of games at the PL level but KWP has the advantage of at least having trained with Spurs and is by all accounts a very promising prospect. Either way, toss those two out if you want, the point was that we have no actual evidence to show that Yedlin should be number two on the depth chart as you suggest.
Blame me for "Euro-snobbing" all you want but judging form your comments you;ve only watched him in the World Cup and clearly didn't pay attention very much if you used the Germany and Portugal games as examples. I'm a season ticket holder for an MLS team and watch plenty of MLS games for better or worse. I'm hardly just saying, "he's American he has no shot". On the contrary I think he deserves to be making the step over to England and I'm glad we got him, HOWEVER, it is going to take some time before he is ready to hit the field for Spurs first team. Feel free to interpret that as you will, but it seems to me you are being US Soccer defensive "about as hard as humanly possible" right now.
The guy is almost doomed to be a disappointment with all the pressure and expectations being placed on him. If he is ineffective subbing on late for a couple of games and then makes a mistake that leads to a goal he'll be slated and buried by Spurs supporters. There's raw talent, but we need to reign in the expectations a bit. You'd think we would have learned this by now.
We could sign Messi and it would be the same story though.
From what I've seen. Limited although it's been. Dude is nowhere near ready for 1st team action.
Let's just wait and see. He might adjust and come on really quickly. The way I see it, its another option at RB if Walker gets injured and that could mean the difference this season because we are much weaker without him and with the poor stand ins we've had so far.
I just don't see how these two statements fit together. He's 21 years old, has two full professional seasons under his belt and has 10 full senior international caps, including 3 at a World Cup. Sure he's a development project, and if Spurs want to give him a rest after the MLS season and let him bed in at training for awhile, that's certainly an understandable decision. But if he can be trusted to come on for a cameo against Germany, I'm pretty sure he won't soil himself or trip over his boots coming on for a cameo against Sheffield United.
You all keep talking about Kyle The Lesser as if he and Yedlin will be Spurs at the same time. Naughton has been passed by Vlad and Dier on the depth chart. I will be shocked if he is here after January. I doubt we ever see him in a Spurs kit again.
Interesting debate, but we won't have long to wait now. However, the idea of him being anywhere near the 1st team is ridiculous. If he's a good as people say, he'll learn quickly and hopefully become an important member of the squad, but let's keep the pressure off and allow him to develop.