He legit put 2 posts before that and a off topic warning at the start of the post lol
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He legit put 2 posts before that and a off topic warning at the start of the post lol
So, there's a lot of discussion about the degree of editorial control the club has. I've provided a link to my own professional experience of how editorial control clauses work at the bottom of this post, and that such clauses usually relate to legal risk. business damage, security concerns or factual errors.
I've also made it clear that in both philosophical and practical terms there is no such thing as "pure reality" fly-on-the-wall documentary. Editing creates meaning and narratives, and we absolutely see this playing out in this series.
I can't find any details of the specific editorial control clauses Spurs have secured from Amazon online. Usually these are well-guarded industry secrets, not least because broadcasters are wary of mission creep where organisations demand such powers of veto that the documentary becomes a PR commercial or advert for the brand.
But here's a practical example of a situation that would absolutely have arisen during the editing of the series. Mourinho tells our players to behave like cunts on the pitch.
“But, for 90 minutes, for 90 minutes, you cannot be nice. For 90 minutes, we have to be a bunch of c***s. Intelligent c***s, not stupid c***s.”
So the practical question is: does Levy have veto power over this Mourinho quote in the Amazon contract?
I imagine Levy and his marketing managers would have been very concerned on first learning of this quote from our head coach. Will this create "brand damage" to Spurs? Could it lead to referees changing their perception of us? Fundamentally, is such a quote potentially reputationally damaging to Spurs and our global image?
NB personally, I hate all this brand and image stuff, but it is the reality of how corporations think and behave.
Anyway, what happened? Mourinho's words are out there front and centre for everyone to hear. There has been no suppression or censorship. They've effectively been used in the advertising of the series, and I'm certain will come up in pundit discussions of our matches this season.
What can we deduce from this?
Did Levy have sufficient veto power to exclude comments made on camera by his head coach that he didn't like? If he does have such a clause, he has chosen not to exercise it.
Alternately, the editorial control clauses may be fairly standard industry ones, relating to legal issues etc, meaning Levy had no right to instruct Amazon to remove Mourinho's quote.
However, on reflection, I increasingly suspect the club went a different route, and reserved the right to deny access to certain meetings and discussions. By which I'm thinking specifically of two scenes that Amazon did not show us:
1) Levy firing Poch
2) Mourinho having his first 1:1 with Eriksen where he presumably learnt that Eriksen had no intention of signing a new contract.
In practical terms, this would mean that Amazon negotiated the rights to eg film all team talks and training sessions, but Spurs reserved the right to exclude the cameras from certain key meetings.
https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum...entary-about-spurs.33346/page-83#post-2446441
I've also made it clear that in both philosophical and practical terms there is no such thing as "pure reality" fly-on-the-wall documentary. Editing creates meaning and narratives, and we absolutely see this playing out in this series.
I can't find any details of the specific editorial control clauses Spurs have secured from Amazon online. Usually these are well-guarded industry secrets, not least because broadcasters are wary of mission creep where organisations demand such powers of veto that the documentary becomes a PR commercial or advert for the brand.
But here's a practical example of a situation that would absolutely have arisen during the editing of the series. Mourinho tells our players to behave like cunts on the pitch.
“But, for 90 minutes, for 90 minutes, you cannot be nice. For 90 minutes, we have to be a bunch of c***s. Intelligent c***s, not stupid c***s.”
So the practical question is: does Levy have veto power over this Mourinho quote in the Amazon contract?
I imagine Levy and his marketing managers would have been very concerned on first learning of this quote from our head coach. Will this create "brand damage" to Spurs? Could it lead to referees changing their perception of us? Fundamentally, is such a quote potentially reputationally damaging to Spurs and our global image?
NB personally, I hate all this brand and image stuff, but it is the reality of how corporations think and behave.
Anyway, what happened? Mourinho's words are out there front and centre for everyone to hear. There has been no suppression or censorship. They've effectively been used in the advertising of the series, and I'm certain will come up in pundit discussions of our matches this season.
What can we deduce from this?
Did Levy have sufficient veto power to exclude comments made on camera by his head coach that he didn't like? If he does have such a clause, he has chosen not to exercise it.
Alternately, the editorial control clauses may be fairly standard industry ones, relating to legal issues etc, meaning Levy had no right to instruct Amazon to remove Mourinho's quote.
However, on reflection, I increasingly suspect the club went a different route, and reserved the right to deny access to certain meetings and discussions. By which I'm thinking specifically of two scenes that Amazon did not show us:
1) Levy firing Poch
2) Mourinho having his first 1:1 with Eriksen where he presumably learnt that Eriksen had no intention of signing a new contract.
In practical terms, this would mean that Amazon negotiated the rights to eg film all team talks and training sessions, but Spurs reserved the right to exclude the cameras from certain key meetings.
https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum...entary-about-spurs.33346/page-83#post-2446441
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I'm just wondering why writing a book detailing dressing room shenanigans isn't breaking that unwritten rule. Aint me that keeps trying to turn it to Levys level of editorial control
Really don't care tbh
Not Norway I think?
well, you obviously do... you did say it was a lie when
Airfixx
made the comparison in the first place. Which was my original question..why was it a lieI guess you don't actually think that?
Enjoying your insights, cheers.
I shudder to think how dear the Systembolaget is now.
I used to get those...But I usually gave them shit so that they would mark me down as a difficult number to call, so all I get now are recorded calls, which are annoying, but at least I can hang up straight away...
I never accept unarranged calls from any company, if I want to change something about my account, I'll contact them thanks.
Yeah, but it's fun to rip the piss out of some cunt claiming he's from Microsoft and my computer has a fault that needs fixing immediately...
I bought one of those nuisance call blocker phones from BT a year or more ago. 100% success. Absolute bliss.
Should have known that, gif changed now.
And your point being what exactly?ArcspacE , you do realise Man City and Dortmund have done these documentaries too? Not to mention the All Blacks and many many other top teams in world sport?
No - as in I don't really care YOU think of my opinion. I've now made an attempt to explain but your agenda lies elsewherewell, you obviously do... you did say it was a lie when
I guess you don't actually think that?
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You take as if the whole thing was Levy's thinking and done by him. I very much doubt Amazon would give up complete control to him as they have history in such documentaries.