True but surely gooners would vote Levy IN?
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Management Ange: In/Out?
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Could not agree more with parts in bold.
One more stat I've been sharing here and there that goes well with your point (meaning us scoring first puts us in control, letting opposition score does same for opposition) :
- we have kept clean sheet in total in 10 games out of 53 (19%);
- after this honeymoon spell (since GW 11 last year) it has been 6 from 43 (so 14%);
-> so that means that we ALMOST ALWAYS leak a goal at some point
- at the same time we've conceded 2 or more goals in 23 games out of 53 (43%)
- and from the games we've conceded 2+ goals we have won 2 (!) - last season in 4th round (vs Burnley- 5:2 and they scored their 2nd goal on 90+4) and last season 22 round (vs Brendford - they scored first, we hit 3 and Toney scored on 67th minute - ended 3:2).
-> first of all - it is more than twice as likely we leak 2+ goals
-> but more importantly - we almost always concede at least once, so we give away our margin of error totally. Cause as soon as we concede 2nd goal IT IS GAME OVER - we are not winning that game anymore.
And that is shocking. We almost always shoot ourselves in the leg and start running marathon then.
It is not justifiable nor logical.
Despite that, when Ange was just recently asked about if he is concerned with lack of clean sheets, he said that "No, he does not care about that". That is just plain idiotic approach that has no place in that level of football and it shows that coach is absolutely clueless and not even touching distance with the required level.
No one is factoring in the loss of Kane. He was our star player and left not because he was not being paid enough but because we had not won a trophy and kept prioritising top 4 over trophies. When in the summer they bought players for the future then they should expect problems this season and look at the future. Ange is getting young players blooded whilst the previous 2 Managers did not.
The last thing we need is to bring in a new Manager who plays a different style such as 3 at the back and we need to buy more CB’s and get rid of others as we have insufficient spaces in our squad. In other words stop the present rebuild and start again. We have averaged a new Manager every 18 months and it is not working. Levy gets rid as soon as fan discontent is shown at the ground.
We need 2 extra matches in the Europa like a hole in the head and if we lose to MU discontent will increase. These are our priorities and it will not be easy.
The last thing we need is to bring in a new Manager who plays a different style such as 3 at the back and we need to buy more CB’s and get rid of others as we have insufficient spaces in our squad. In other words stop the present rebuild and start again. We have averaged a new Manager every 18 months and it is not working. Levy gets rid as soon as fan discontent is shown at the ground.
We need 2 extra matches in the Europa like a hole in the head and if we lose to MU discontent will increase. These are our priorities and it will not be easy.
Kane leaving isn't - and never really has been - the problem. One thing Postecoglou can do is get a team to score goals.
It's the frailty once we get turned that is the problem. And, of course, the fact that we have half a squad currently available...
Ange IN.
Levy OUT.
Levy OUT.
No it isn't. This is a lie.
Between Dec 10 and April 7 we played 16, W10 L3 D3 pretty decent form. A shade over 2 points a game.
Think that run of form would have been better remembered if we'd had an FA Cup on during it. But we drew City and got done 1-0 by a foul on Vic from a set-piece if I remember correctly.
As it is that "recovery run" of decent form kind of got loss in the way the season fizzled out - especially with the pain of having to decide the Gooners title for them etc...
Just popped on the vote 'In'.
Lovely way to end the day.
Lovely way to end the day.
I disagree. Conte was give Kulu, Bentencaur, Perisic, Udogie, Richarlison, Romero, Bissouma, Porro, Royal, Sarr, Lenglet. And of course the club did not sell Kane or Son.
If that's not being backed, I don't know what is!!
Conte's was hired to get Spurs a trophy; and hand over a working squad to the next coach. It was a temporary hire.
What killed it was
- death's to one of our coaches; and one of Conte's best friends back in Italy.
- Conte unwell and requiring surgery
- Many of our players with World cup commitments.
Basically, Conte was well backed, but didn't have the history, the heart and love for Tottenham and lost interest.
We are cursed aren't we? Ffs
How many players in our squad have experience playing in an elite club team that wins stuff??
Werner? Kulu? Bentencaur?
That's it. None of our other players have any experience of playing for a decent team. There only experience is fighting relegation or sitting in mid table nothingness.
We are signing players from Leeds, Bournmouth, Burnley, Djurgården (lol), Forest, Leicester and expecting them to be winners on the pitch in the most competitive league in the world?
We have a captain who has never won anything.
It does feel like it.
We hire Mourinho; and shove an Amazon film crew in which upsets all the players and then COVID hits.
Well the geezer who won the World Cup isn’t deemed good enough by many here. Let’s get an 18 year old from the Belgian league, that will fix everything.
I'm not even someone who thinks the manager plays as big of a role as others do.
But keeping players fit and not running them into the ground is a bare minimum from a coach, and he's failing right now.
Well the geezer who won the World Cup isn’t deemed good enough by many here. Let’s get an 18 year old from the Belgian league, that will fix everything.
International competitions and League football are quite different. Romero has thus far failed to show consistency across a season and he seems to be injured more often than not - which is surprising since before joining Spurs he was rarely injured.
The reason Liverpool had successful seasons under Klopp was because Robertson, VVD, AA, Mane and Salah were fit and available for ALL 38 games in the league. Their best players; and core of the team remained injury free.
He was influenced by Puskas. I guess when you're Real Madrid and have Puskas, Di Stefano and Gento you can win the Champions League 7-3, but ... we don't have players of their calibre.
I'm not sure how. They haven't been over played. They have been protected. They are either weak, or made of glass.
Romero has played
- ONCE in Europa league.
- Half a game in the EFL Cup.
- No more than once a week in the league.
Van De Ven
- Once in Europa
- 14 minutes in the EFL Cup
- No more than once a week in the league.
Richarlison - We knew he was done. He refused to leave in Summer.
Odobert - 160 minutes in the league and injured.
Yes but there's a clear pattern of injuries that follow Postecoglou wherever he manages. At Celtic he played youth team players in Europe, the squad so threadbare,At some point the question has to be asked: is it just bad luck or is it his management? I think its the latter.
It doesn't really matter who the coaches are; we always seem to be plagued by injuries to Key players. My suspicion is that we are not doping as aggressively as the other clubs.
We didn't get enough consistency from our best players Kane, Hugo, Son, Dele
| Player Name | 2018/19 | 2019/20 | 2020/21 | 2021/22 | 2022/23 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Harry Kane | 10 | 0 | 18 | 17 | 1 |
| Hugo Lloris | 1 | 1 | 12 | 4 | 10 |
| Son Heung-min | 0 | 13 | 7 | 9 | 4 |
| Toby Alderweireld | 2 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| Jan Vertonghen | 11 | 2 | 9 | 0 | - |
| Christian Eriksen | 0 | 1 | - | - | - |
| Dele Alli | 0 | 0 | 8 | 14 | 1 |
| Erik Lamela | 25 | 23 | 3 | 3 | 0 |
| Moussa Sissoko | 9 | 6 | 11 | 1 | 0 |
| Davinson Sánchez | 1 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 3 |
| Serge Aurier | 6 | 4 | 7 | 0 | - |
| Danny Rose | 3 | 19 | 0 | - | - |
| Ben Davies | 1 | 12 | 3 | 8 | 5 |
| Juan Foyth | 15 | 2 | 5 | - | - |
| Giovani Lo Celso | - | 10 | 13 | 10 | 2 |
| Steven Bergwijn | - | 0 | 1 | 10 | 2 |
| Pierre-Emile Højbjerg | - | - | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| Ryan Sessegnon | - | 0 | 22 | 20 | 1 |
| Tanguy Ndombele | - | 0 | 12 | 8 | 1 |
| Japhet Tanganga | - | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 |
| Sergio Reguilón | - | - | 0 | 6 | 0 |
| Cristian Romero | - | - | - | 0 | 3 |
| Oliver Skipp | - | - | 0 | 9 | 2 |
| Matt Doherty | - | - | - | 0 | 3 |
If Postecoglou were to be fired people would still wonder if the system could work with healthy players and at least one more transfer window. A big portion of the fan base would think he wasn't given a fair shot with a healthy roster and enough backing. Levy doesn't need the aggravation that would come with firing Postecoglou. I don't see it happening.