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Management Ange: In/Out?

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In or out?

  • In

    Votes: 147 28.7%
  • Out

    Votes: 308 60.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 58 11.3%

  • Total voters
    513
The gap is widening.

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I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze high line with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him
 
I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze highland with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him
So encouraging Archie Gray to masquerade as Beckenbaur while right footed Dragusin was played out of position on the left of the defence, despite being worse than useless with his left, wasn't enough for you?
 
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I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze highland with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him

Not only that but whatever threat a Son/Timo/BJ trio might conjure will be far more potent against tiring legs than it would against a fresh and highly motivated starting XI driven by a big dose of cup-final syndrome.
 
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I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze high line with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him
I mean it's fair to do that. But on the other hand, apart from VDV, Romero and Vicario every one of our first choice starters played some part last night.

Against a rotated Rangers who had one eye on a cup final in a couple of days.

The injury crisis just doesn't really explain away last night at all.
 
14% undecided is worrying. how slow must you be! i worry for them sort of people that still cant make their mind up on something so obvious. the ange in lot are just idiots beyond help and a bunch of creepy cultists.
 
14% undecided is worrying. how slow must you be! i worry for them sort of people that still cant make their mind up on something so obvious. the ange in lot are just idiots beyond help and a bunch of creepy cultists.
Undecided is as good as get rid.
There was something on the radio the other day when they were discussing clubs who effectively give a manager one more game or they sack him.
What does that one game achieve? If he's lost enough games to have one game left to save his job, he's already been shit.
If, after 18 months of this tripe, anyone is undecided, then they're just burying their head in the sand.
 
I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze high line with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him

I've been generally supportive of him (I have a soft spot for fat Australians) but this is the main problem - the absolute stubbornness.

2-0 up against a dangerous Chelsea team, we should manage the game, drop deep and pick them off with quick counters which we have shown we can do well.

Every principle should have exceptions but Ange doesn't seem to get that. Klopp was too gung go in his first season and like us he would batter some teams and then concede 4 the next week. The top managers can see the flaws in their system and adapt
 
I knee jerked after Chelsea and yesterday and wanted him gone. Today I'm trying to take into account all the injuries and the lack of cover in positions. Its just frustrates me that he isnt pragmatic at all. Like he knows we have a defense full of backups he he still plays the kamikaze high line with a 2-0 lead. And instead of playing Dom and Kulu from the start yesterday, he rotates - why not get n early lead and then rotate? Makes no sense. Anyway, I'm undecided on him
Similar to the Ipswich match - anyone not able to beat fucking Rangers simply shouldn't be on the books at Spurs. They are miles below us (and rotated, themselves).

It's not the quality of the players he has on hand, man for man we're significantly better than the clubs we're dropping points to. The manager is having a negative effect - he's in miles over his head. And sinking.
 
I have been an Ange in but I honestly don’t see a way back now. He won’t change as we saw again last night. The only tweak last night was two sitting centre midfielders instead of 1 but it’s still the same set up in terms of playing out and playing in front of teams at a slow pace. There’s no penetration in behind. The front 3 all come to the ball even when there’s space to run into. That’s what they are obviously being coached to do. Last night crying out for something different. Even play a 4-4-2 with Solanke and Deki up which gives you a presence. One can go in behind and one to feet. Out of possession Deki drops back into make it a 4-5-1.
The fact it’s the same set up and results are getting worse still Ange continues with it tells me he won’t change. That for me is signaling time up.
Next 3 games determine if he’s here after Xmas.

It feels like all our players are miles away from eachother too. The whole set up and moving about of players is wrong.
 
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