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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Deuterz said:
Ange wanted him
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Is this something you know as a matter of fact? That it was Ange himself that wanted and insisted upon Solanke. And that it wasn't a decision reached by higher ups at the club. Or that it wasn't a decision that was done "together" with the higher ups so that Ange was sold onto it?

Personally I do not know about that. So I just ask. If you have Ange's interview or statement (or some other link) from which we can see that it was Ange himself that wanted Solanke please let me know.

In any case, going for Solanke strikes me as a very old-school approach to football. To me personally it doesn't inspire great confidence. But, I mean, I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
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dudu said:
Woolwich goal, nothing to do with high line.

Palace goal, nothing to do with high line.

Brighton goals very little, if anything to do with a high line.

there are definitely ways to blame.ange for some of the goals we have conceded but in my opinion very few have anything to do with a high line attack attack attack approach.

Can you be more specific about what you mean?
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Agreed Liverpool and City play high line, it is a proven way to win trophies. You defend differently in a high line than low block but our issue this season has been defenders switching off.
 
ShakesSpeare said:
Is this something you know as a matter of fact? That it was Ange himself that wanted and insisted upon Solanke. And that it wasn't a decision reached by higher ups at the club. Or that it wasn't a decision that was done "together" with the higher ups?

Personally I do not know about that. So I just ask. If you have Ange's interview or statement (or some other link) from which we can see that it was Ange himself that wanted Solanke please let me know.

In any case, going for Solanke strikes me as a very old-school approach to football. To me personally it doesn't inspire great confidence.
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ShakesSpeare said:
Is this something you know as a matter of fact? That it was Ange himself that wanted and insisted upon Solanke. And that it wasn't a decision reached by higher ups at the club. Or that it wasn't a decision that was done "together" with the higher ups?

Personally I do not know about that. So I just ask. If you have Ange's interview or statement (or some other link) from which we can see that it was Ange himself that wanted Solanke please let me know.

In any case, going for Solanke strikes me as a very old-school approach to football. To me personally it doesn't inspire great confidence.
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I doubt we would get a player the manager doesn’t want at all. Our wages however limit our options. So he might have been 3/4th on the list but within the ENIC price range thus we buy him.

Option 1: wages to high
Option 2: Transfer fee to high
Option 3: Solanke
 
Tomo said:
I doubt we would get a player the manager doesn’t want at all. Our wages however limit our options. So he might have been 3/4th on the list but within the ENIC price range thus we buy him.

Option 1: wages to high
Option 2: Transfer fee to high
Option 3: Solanke
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I imagine he’d have liked Gyokores. Works hard as well but probably has a higher upside if he can translate performances in Portugal to England.

But yeah - a lot of big clubs wanted him and struggled with fee/wages. But those clubs hadn’t just sold Harry Kane.
 
Deuterz said:
I imagine he’d have liked Gyokores. Works hard as well but probably has a higher upside if he can translate performances in Portugal to England.

But yeah - a lot of big clubs wanted him and struggled with fee/wages. But those clubs hadn’t just sold Harry Kane.
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Gyokores is the player that immediately springs to mind. Bit of an animal. I think even if we sell Richy the Gyokeres situation is beyond us now, he will go for big big money. If Madrid didn’t have Mbappe or Bayern Kane you could see him go there but as is Man United with the manager connection and money will probably be the case.
 
dudu said:
Woolwich goal, nothing to do with high line.

Palace goal, nothing to do with high line.

Brighton goals very little, if anything to do with a high line.

there are definitely ways to blame.ange for some of the goals we have conceded but in my opinion very few have anything to do with a high line attack attack attack approach.

Can you be more specific about what you mean?
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Good to get your reply. In my original post I never mentioned Woolwich or Palace. Its the ethos of AP's approach that I question on occasion. The continuous high line intensity of our game when we are ahead. That initial intensity from kick-off asks a lot of the first 11 and my question is to continue that intensity when we are in front in games leaves us vunerable imo. The Newcastle winner was definately due to our highline and had Ange sent us out in the second half against Brighton with the instruction keep things tight for the first 20 minutes instead of what I suspect he said was keep doing what you did in the first half, then I believe we would have been 6 points to the good. But this is what forums are about, opinions and breakdown of opinions. And for the record I love Big Ange and I understand the mentality he is trying to create at the club. I just wish sometimes he would game manage a bit better and I believe he will.
 
ShakesSpeare said:
Is this something you know as a matter of fact? That it was Ange himself that wanted and insisted upon Solanke. And that it wasn't a decision reached by higher ups at the club. Or that it wasn't a decision that was done "together" with the higher ups so that Ange was sold onto it?

Personally I do not know about that. So I just ask. If you have Ange's interview or statement (or some other link) from which we can see that it was Ange himself that wanted Solanke please let me know.

In any case, going for Solanke strikes me as a very old-school approach to football. To me personally it doesn't inspire great confidence. But, I mean, I'd love to be proven wrong.
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We're not spending 65m on a player the manager doesn't want.

That would be a great way for the club to waste their own money.
 
Doom Funk said:
Little tip as a newbie mate

Shadydan is top dog on this forum

If you require an audience with him you'll need to go through the proper channels

Just to set expectations, there's currently a 2 year waiting list
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I thought this was a forum to debate Spurs topics not a totalitarian society! And not a newbie when it comes to Tottenham Hotspur. It was 58 years ago I first went to The Lane and I'm still going.
 
Raf said:
We're not spending 65m on a player the manager doesn't want.

That would be a great way for the club to waste their own money.
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Yes. I agree. But those things are in my opinion always more complicated than that. There is something the manager wants and then there is something the higher ups want. And the manager that is brought in is always brought in to work with those higher ups. He is brought in, in other words, because he can work with the higher ups. The higher ups bring that manager in that will listen to them. And then the higher ups tell him things like: "We can't go for that option. That option is impossible for us. But this is an option that we can go for and that we can get."

I don't know what happened in the case of Solanke. But in my opinion those things are always more complicated.
 
ShakesSpeare said:
Yes. I agree. But those things are in my opinion always more complicated than that. There is something the manager wants and then there is something the higher ups want. And the manager that is brought in is always brought in to work with those higher ups. He is brought in, in other words, because he can work with the higher ups. And then the higher ups tell him things like: "We can't go that option, but this is an option that we can go for and that we can get."

I don't know what happened in the case of Solanke. But in my opinion those things are always more complicated.
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I can't think of a striker better than Solanke that we would've had any realistic chance of signing.
 
Deuterz said:
Gyokores.

Activate the clause, slap 250k a week on the table. He joins.

We would never do this, obviously. But we just sold our star striker who we were willing to offer 350k+ a week.
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After one good season in Sporting having joined from Coventry when no one wanted him?

Woolwich didn't even want to pay that for him. I think Solanke was the more sensible choice. Also I'm not sure if Gyokeres would get the space to put up the numbers he can in Portugal.
 
Raf said:
After one good season in Sporting having joined from Coventry when no one wanted him?

Woolwich didn't even want to pay that for him. I think Solanke was the more sensible choice. Also I'm not sure if Gyokeres would get the space to put up the numbers he can in Portugal.
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It was the risky but Gucci option. High upside high downside. You either get a guy exploding or a guy who just was great for a season.

We picked a safe, good option. Which is fine but when you do that all of the time you’ll end up just about where you should be.

Again, Woolwich hadn’t just sold Kane. If they had they likely are prepared to pay more.
 
SpursRomania said:
Yeah, I heard some mix between poor player finishing, individual mistakes, God’s wrath, Levy’s small balls, but nothing to do with Postecoglou. Only if we win he must be credited to death.
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This isn't what was said.

This is why I'm always going to mock your posts because you're totally disingenuous and you twist narratives to suit your argument because you have an agenda pointless.
 
Tomo said:
I doubt we would get a player the manager doesn’t want at all.
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Yes. This is again reasonable to write. Ange could have rejected Solanke. Ange could have made a big stand on Solanke and refused him. Like a veto.

But as I've stated above, those things are always more complicated. I think Ange is and has been trying to work together with the higher ups. But let me say that personally I very much doubt that Ange would put a player like Solanke as his first option when it comes to his project of Spurs revitalization.
 
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