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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I will guarantee you neither manager will move now, we're not Real Madrid lol were not even Man Utd...we don't have a fuck load of cash to drop in January...people talk about the money but we are paying Ange £5m per year, we are not paying Conte money where it would be life changing for these managers.

Ange didn't even leave his post at Celtic when we approached him in March 2023

Tottenham isn't a big draw unfortunately especially under these owners, that's the sad reality.
Not sure how you can guarrantee that at all. Why wouldn't they be willing to triple their wages and have a pop at winning the EL?
 
I get what you're saying. I feel this tired and broken state is partly because of him. I want us to be a pressing team but we are doing it for far too long in games, and in games we don't really need to. Solanke and Kulusevski are doing a ridiculous amount of running.

If we got to a final we are likely not to be at full strength and lacking in energy... just can't see us getting past the Spanish or Italian clubs the way we set up defensively.
It's because of him in that he wants to play this style and he refused to fully tank it in the cups and Europa.

Any coach that wants to play this physically demanding style, without the depth required to do it would have had to prioritize the league over the others or suffer injuries and fatigue. Ange didn't prioritize and now his system is tired, injured and broken.
 
Not sure how you can guarrantee that at all. Why wouldn't they be willing to triple their wages and have a pop at winning the EL?

Just like theres no guarantees in life that these guys won't up and leave their current posts, there's no guarantees that these guys will be able to have a crack at the Europa League and I did have a chuckle to myself at the fact that both managers are sitting there salivating at the prospect of progressing in the EL not the CL, kinda justified my point about us not really being a big draw.
 
For me the biggest game for him now is the first leg against Liverpool.
If we get turned over big in that game he'll get sacked. If we are still in the tie then he'll have until the 2nd leg. If after that we exit, he'll get sacked. If we get to the final he'll be here to manage that.

Levy isn't going to sack him after what he did to mourinho. He won't want people saying he fired another manager before a big cup game in the same way he doesn't want to repeat the mason experiment for a third time.

I'd be surprised if Munn, Lange and Levy haven't already started to get their list of managers together in the background. They have 2/3 weeks more before they have to make that final decision.
 
Just like theres no guarantees in life that these guys won't up and leave their current posts, there's no guarantees that these guys will be able to have a crack at the Europa League and I did have a chuckle to myself at the fact that both managers are sitting there salivating at the prospect of progressing in the EL not the CL, kinda justified my point about us not really being a big draw.
You said you guaranteed it and now you say there are no guarantees.

Bournemoth and Fulham aren't qualifying for the CL btw.. Not sure what you ae getting at there.
 
Quick question.

When I look in the mirror should I be wearing my Steve Irwin safari suit, wearing my bottle cork hat and holding my pet koala??
You can wear whatever floats your boat.
Whatever mate but he needs more players or to be dismissed.
He must go. He must.
If Levy doesn't sack him, I'd rather not waste a single penny, nor would I sanction any sales whatsoever while he's here.
What was his record like with signings at Celtic? All strong or a mixed bag?
Doesn't matter. A player who shines for Celtic will look like a clogger 9/10 in the PL.
That is so damming. Only 1 more goal scored for this balls out, all attacking (frankly playground) approach than the man with the handbrake on.
Ange's stats are padded by hammering poor teams like West Ham, Villa, Southampton, Everton and Man City.
2 goals scored agains Leicester, Ipswich, Palace, Fulham, Palace, Forest shows what we're really like.
What’s Guardiola and Amorin over the same period?
Got to be similar.

Is that their level too? Are we saying Pep is done?
Amorin is not up to the job? Not even getting a new manager bounce!
Guardiola is done. The will part ways at the of the season at the latest. He's got everything he can out of them and it's time for him to move on. He can't fix it.

Amorim has only just started there. If we compare his start at United to Ange's at Spurs, I'd rather we started badly under Ange and we then saw progress.
That isn't what has happened though. Ange has made us worse and it's clear for all to see. Now those 10 games are gone, we're seeing the real level we're at.
If you want the whole season PPG, it's still only 1.3ppg across all 18 games.
I said a few weeks ago that it was being padded out by an unusually kind run of fixtures, especially when we played United , Villa and City whilst on their knees.

I genuinely cannot recall the last time we beat a team in a league match when that team were in any kind of good form WHEN we beat them.

That is the scary part. We literally only beat bad teams and even that isn't guaranteed.
 
For me the biggest game for him now is the first leg against Liverpool.
If we get turned over big in that game he'll get sacked. If we are still in the tie then he'll have until the 2nd leg. If after that we exit, he'll get sacked. If we get to the final he'll be here to manage that.

Levy isn't going to sack him after what he did to mourinho. He won't want people saying he fired another manager before a big cup game in the same way he doesn't want to repeat the mason experiment for a third time.

I'd be surprised if Munn, Lange and Levy haven't already started to get their list of managers together in the background. They have 2/3 weeks more before they have to make that final decision.
Could you actually care less if he was employed by THFC and we won the league cup?
Ignoring the fact Liverpool will spank the fucking life out of us over 2 legs and either of Woolwich or Newcastle will see us off in a theoretical final without breaking sweat, what difference does it make?
Winning a 2nd rate domestic cup and finishing bottom half with an ever decreasing PPG the longer he stays is unacceptable. If he's somehow managed to survive until May, won the league cup and the league form is the same, he still needs to go. If we win a cup it's despite him, not because of him.
 
It's because of him in that he wants to play this style and he refused to fully tank it in the cups and Europa.

Any coach that wants to play this physically demanding style, without the depth required to do it would have had to prioritize the league over the others or suffer injuries and fatigue. Ange didn't prioritize and now his system is tired, injured and broken.
He didn't have to prioritise anything last season and we've had a similar outcome in results, injuries and performances, Albeit we are better in attack at times because we have an actual CF.

But we are worse in defence possibly because not having PEH, Royal and even Dier at times, who are naturally defensive players with experience.

Ange said he doesn't change tactically and that the individuals on pitch determine a different outcome........so he doesn't really do anything does he.
 
Every player Ange wanted Levy has given him so stop blaming Levy it is the manager with his tactics and the players he wanted.
That’s bit much.

Ange needs to go and is woefully out of his depth. But he reportedly wanted Eze, Gallagher and Neto and got Odobert, Archie Gray and Werner on loan.

Levy has not properly backed the manager, like he hasn’t properly backed any manager ever. When it comes down to it, he penny pinches in the wrong moment.
 
The mistakes our players make is a direct consequence of the football he wants them to play.

The higher than usual number of red cards we have had since he arrived is a direct consequence of the football he wants them to play.

The unusually high injury rate we have suffered since he arrived is a direct consequence of the football he wants them to play.

I can't believe this isn't abundantly clear by now.
 
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Could you actually care less if he was employed by THFC and we won the league cup?
Ignoring the fact Liverpool will spank the fucking life out of us over 2 legs and either of Woolwich or Newcastle will see us off in a theoretical final without breaking sweat, what difference does it make?
Winning a 2nd rate domestic cup and finishing bottom half with an ever decreasing PPG the longer he stays is unacceptable. If he's somehow managed to survive until May, won the league cup and the league form is the same, he still needs to go. If we win a cup it's despite him, not because of him.
I don't really care who manages us, I'd like us to win a trophy. Whether it's Ange or not. Whether we win because of him or not, none of that matters to me.

I wrote off the league season before it started because I'm fully aware of where we really are as a club. The fact that we are in a cup semi is a massive bonus which I didn't think we'd see this season.

I live in hope we can progress in the fa Cup and Europa League too. But the expectations are low.
 
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