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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
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Klaus said:
Just displays a fundamental misunderstanding of football, sometimes tight defending in a low block is required by every team. And I don't see why having been so angry with our Woolwich low block he'd have suddenly employed that tactic against Brentford. Think it's far more likely the players had had quite enough of losing thank you very much and did what they needed to do to protect a lead.
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Ange doesn’t play low block tactics because that’s what all the shit teams sitting in the bottom half of table day do. Shit teams like Leicester, Ipswich, Palace, Everton , Wolves have all managed to beat and outsmart Spurs with these amazing tactics, yet find themselves sitting near or in the relegation zone.

Low block tight defence tactics don’t create sustainable winning cultures or win trophies. Especially if you think you’re a top 4 team like most deluded Spurs fans do, then low block isn’t going to cut it. The best teams that win things score goals, then score more goals. They don’t park the bus and then try to manage the game like all the bottom half managers facing relegation do.

Low block might work if you’re trying to avoid relegation, but it’s a recipe for at best, mediocrity. Spurs are trying to win things, so that means being brave and taking risks. Sadly those risks have resulted in below average performances and sitting bottom half of the table, but is that the managers fault or injuries? One could argue that Ange should have adapted tactics given all the injuries, but the thing that frightens him the most , the thing that keeps him up at night, is the idea that “sometimes defending in a low block is required by every team” will seep its way into the consciousness of the players. And once that happens that is the end of Ange ball and the Ange project. So he chooses to uphold his culture and values for long term goals over short term pragmatism.
 
Someone gets it - hooray!

One could argue that Ange should have adapted tactics given all the injuries, but the thing that frightens him the most , the thing that keeps him up at night, is the idea that “sometimes defending in a low block is required by every team” will seep its way into the consciousness of the players. And once that happens that is the end of Ange ball and the Ange project. So he chooses to uphold his culture and values for long term goals over short term pragmatism.

But of course he is 'naive' and 'not up to it' as he is antipodean...ffs
Imagine the wheeling and dealing that 'arry in the backrooms would have done, so to speak that Ange must have done similarly to get himself over the line for this gig... charlatan!
 
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MemphisWill said:
This thread has nearly twice as many pages as Pochettino's thread.

FFS.

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No such thing as PochBall is there. You get what you deserve on TFC.

Ange is a fucking genius. He deserves 3x as many pages!!

However I will put this thread on ignore today and then come back the day after the Europa league final to see 10k pages of Ange adulation.

Be good to have a break from everyone discussing this Greek God of a man.

Ange Postegodlou!!!
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Engorged Onion said:
Someone gets it - hooray!

One could argue that Ange should have adapted tactics given all the injuries, but the thing that frightens him the most , the thing that keeps him up at night, is the idea that “sometimes defending in a low block is required by every team” will seep its way into the consciousness of the players. And once that happens that is the end of Ange ball and the Ange project. So he chooses to uphold his culture and values for long term goals over short term pragmatism.

But of course he is 'naive' and 'not up to it' as he is antipodean...ffs
Imagine the wheeling and dealing that 'arry in the backrooms would have done, so to speak that Ange must have done similarly to get himself over the line for this gig... charlatan!
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How many accounts have you got! Geeze, your argument and opinion should hold enough weight without repeating through multiple user names - are you 14?
 
Phomesy said:
Not sure this decision has been made yet. Position still very precarious. Some results in the next games probably safe. 3 losses and he's probably gone imo
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I don't think the club have any intention of sacking Ange this season regardless of how bad things get. We've just been on the worst run imaginable and they backed him!

They've now backed him in January to some extent. He's solely the reason Tel just agreed to join for the remainder of the season. Sacking Ange after he convinced Tel to join wouldn't do us many favours if we are hoping to buy him in the summer.

If the season ends in complete failure (bottom half in league and didn't reach a final), then he'll be replaced in the Summer. But I don't see them going early. The players like him and the idea of throwing Mason in as a caretaker for a few months to keep us up would not sit well with anyone and just prove that our project is going nowhere.
 
Don Pedro said:
I don't think the club have any intention of sacking Ange this season regardless of how bad things get. We've just been on the worst run imaginable and they backed him!

They've now backed him in January to some extent. He's solely the reason Tel just agreed to join for the remainder of the season. Sacking Ange after he convinced Tel to join wouldn't do us many favours if we are hoping to buy him in the summer.

If the season ends in complete failure (bottom half in league and didn't reach a final), then he'll be replaced in the Summer. But I don't see them going early. The players like him and the idea of throwing Mason in as a caretaker for a few months to keep us up would not sit well with anyone and just prove that our project is going nowhere.
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Hey Don, I’ve seen your enthusiasm wax and slightly wane over this season. Seems a kinda barometer for me - when I saw you in the wane I was thinking ‘yep we fkd’
But here we are. Our club is looking like it’s got a culture change happening and that’s likely the best thing that Angelos will be remembered for.
Maybe a cup or two, but change the culture of the inner workings of THFC - fucking hell, that is something else altogether
 
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