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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Tel, Gray, Bergvall, Moore, Kinsky ARE in addition to the main squad.

Here is our squad. RED injured, YELLOW recently injured and not fully recovered. Porro, Son, Kulu are fucking knackered and have played the most minutes of any player in the prem.
  1. Ben Davies (HG)
  2. Brandon Austin(HG)
  3. Fraser Forster(HG)
  4. Alfie Whiteman(HG)
  5. James Maddison(HG)
  6. Brennan Johnson(HG)
  7. Djed Spence(HG)
  8. Max Robson(HG)
  9. Dominic Solanke(HG)
  10. Son Heung-Min
  11. Cristian Romero
  12. Yves Bissouma
  13. Richarlison
  14. Pedro Porro
  15. Dejan Kulusevski
  16. Guglielmo Vicario
  17. Micky van de Ven
  18. Rodrigo Bentacur
  19. Sergio Reguilon
  20. Pape Matar Sarr
  21. Destiny Udogie
  22. Radu Dragusin
  23. Timo Werner
  24. Kevin Danso(HG)
That’s 24. One of which we just signed and two are players that haven’t played a single second.

Reggie has barely featured even now when we are fucked. Gray and Bergvall ARE in the 25 for EL.
 
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What the hell is this? Everyone but the back 4 are in the middle of opposition's own half trying to press, including 3 CMs that somehow end up right next to each other. Impossible to tell where the defensive line is obviously, but for this to make any sense it has to be placed somewhere around the halfway line at least. Otherwise there must be a ridiculous amount of space between the front 6 and the back 4. We somewhat get an answer couple of seconds later;

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Turns out defensive line is placed somewhere inside our own half, so there is indeed a ridiculous amount of space right in the middle of the pitch to run into. That's what Tielemans does. He ends up making this attempt;

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17th minute of the match y'all, not 87th when all caution was understandably thrown to the wind chasing a match in desperate fashion. And anybody who watched the match yesterday knows this is not me blowing a cherrypicked freak accident out of proportion. Similar stuff kept happening again and again, that's how Kinsky ended up making all those saves.

If you think Romero-VdV coming back or a less congested schedule will fix these structural issues then go ahead. But don't expect many people to follow suit.
Flangeball.
 
Ange is literally on record saying he needs to look at the way we train. He has countless interviews where he says our training is intense.

We aren’t able to fully train atm because of the schedule but it is attributable to *some* of the injuries we’ve accumulated this season.

Take off the biased glasses. It’s a combination of everything. The squad, the tactics, the lack of rotation when we had options, the lack of options when depleted. The sheer number of injuries are abnormal. Two seasons in a row. To similar players and positions. Fucking wake up.
The question is whether the number of injuries is abnormal with Ange in the PL. Two season in a row hey? What if it happened next season (I’d happily wager it would). Still “abnormal”?
 
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What the hell is this? Everyone but the back 4 are in the middle of opposition's own half trying to press, including 3 CMs that somehow end up right next to each other. Impossible to tell where the defensive line is obviously, but for this to make any sense it has to be placed somewhere around the halfway line at least. Otherwise there must be a ridiculous amount of space between the front 6 and the back 4. We somewhat get an answer couple of seconds later;

XKq9YkI.png


Turns out defensive line is placed somewhere inside our own half, so there is indeed a ridiculous amount of space right in the middle of the pitch to run into. That's what Tielemans does. He ends up making this attempt;

eQNhicC.png


17th minute of the match y'all, not 87th when all caution was understandably thrown to the wind chasing a match in desperate fashion. And anybody who watched the match yesterday knows this is not me blowing a cherrypicked freak accident out of proportion. Similar stuff kept happening again and again, that's how Kinsky ended up making all those saves.

If you think Romero-VdV coming back or a less congested schedule will fix these structural issues then go ahead. But don't expect many people to follow suit.
If that was a once off id say fair enough but its all game every game. I was derided by a certain individual when i mentioned i was an amateur coach. Told that i hadnt a clue what i was talking about at this level. That i was giving it the big one that i knew everything.
Even an amateur coach would not do whats shown above. Mental stuff.

That said individual hasnt been seen since yesterday. Will come back on in a day or 2 spouting nonsence
 
There’s been 8 injuries since November, and the squad has barely been training since then. So it has nothing to do with the way we train.
As for running them in to the ground, there’s not many options when no one else is fit to play.

I think Levy will give Ange the season then reassess.
See above report. The way we play in contributing to it. Plus they mightnt be training intensely now but extra load in training early in season can contribute
 
That’s 24. One of which we just signed and two are players that haven’t played a single second.

Reggie has barely featured even now when we are fucked. Gray and Bergvall ARE in the 25 for EL.
Freezing players out given the circumstances is beyond crazy. Reggie limited but had passable loans at 2 clubs last season, not ideal but he could have played in a few games. Spence was on that list until he had no choice, Lankshear could have played more minutes. Ajayi scored a worldie from the bench and hasnt had 1 minute since.
 
Ange is literally on record saying he needs to look at the way we train. He has countless interviews where he says our training is intense.

We aren’t able to fully train atm because of the schedule but it is attributable to *some* of the injuries we’ve accumulated this season.

Take off the biased glasses. It’s a combination of everything. The squad, the tactics, the lack of rotation when we had options, the lack of options when depleted. The sheer number of injuries are abnormal. Two seasons in a row. To similar players and positions. Fucking wake up.
Thats what i find hilarious. We played once a week last year, had tons of injuries. Was that not the time to reassess?? Its a fucking shambles. To say it has nothing to do with the way we play is ridiculous
 
He 'indirectly' sacked the medical department I would have guessed, for not recovering his players soon enough. So it shouldn't be reactionary to do the same to him. He has been given time IMO.. The last two Cup games should be his remaining remit and he lost both.
 
There’s been 8 injuries since November, and the squad has barely been training since then. So it has nothing to do with the way we train.
As for running them in to the ground, there’s not many options when no one else is fit to play.

I think Levy will give Ange the season then reassess.
Its not about rotating now. It was about rotating early in season when we had the squad to do it
 
Assuming he isn't sacked and we somehow get off the injury merry go round, what could be the excuses. My prediction:
- We haven't had the opportunity to embed the system within our returning player group. The off season will help us.
- Confidence within the group has taken a hit this season, there is a lot of external negativity that the players are having to deal with. I've always said if you have a problem then direct it at me.
- We need to manage the team and make sure we don't take any chances with the squad, Solanke was always coming off at 80 minutes. Being 1 goal down at Ipswich tonight was irrelevant.
You could be Ange’’s speechwriter. But you need to add a few concrete chat crap jokes and “mates”
 
No, the available players are rooted, completely buggered, fatigued. It’s pretty simple really.
That’s what he’s on about in pressers. Everyone twist the situation to suit their own narrative and agenda. But the facts are we have a large amount of injuries, and the “available” squad are running on fumes.
the fans are sick of fucking excuses. Even with our full squad the gaps are going to be there because of the way we play. Simple enough. Plus injuries are 80% down to Ange and the way we play.
You joined this forum when ange joined and will be gone when he is so dont be telling us what way we should be feeling and that we have agendas
 
He 'indirectly' sacked the medical department I would have guessed, for not recovering his players soon enough. So it shouldn't be reactionary to do the same to him. He has been given time IMO.. The last two Cup games should be his remaining remit and he lost both.
This 100%. Imagine Ange costing you your job, saying you are not good enough at your job.

Id be fucking livid looking at the shambles on the pitch every week
 
We've played 40 games this season. Romero and Van De Ven have been available for 8 games together. We won 5 of them. Since losing them as a pairing; we've won 4 in 14 in the Prem.

Ange's inability to react as a coach - or having to play a 22 year old with an 18 year old at CB?
 
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What the hell is this? Everyone but the back 4 are in the middle of opposition's own half trying to press, including 3 CMs that somehow end up right next to each other. Impossible to tell where the defensive line is obviously, but for this to make any sense it has to be placed somewhere around the halfway line at least. Otherwise there must be a ridiculous amount of space between the front 6 and the back 4. We somewhat get an answer couple of seconds later;

XKq9YkI.png


Turns out defensive line is placed somewhere inside our own half, so there is indeed a ridiculous amount of space right in the middle of the pitch to run into. That's what Tielemans does. He ends up making this attempt;

eQNhicC.png


17th minute of the match y'all, not 87th when all caution was understandably thrown to the wind chasing a match in desperate fashion. And anybody who watched the match yesterday knows this is not me blowing a cherrypicked freak accident out of proportion. Similar stuff kept happening again and again, that's how Kinsky ended up making all those saves.

If you think Romero-VdV coming back or a less congested schedule will fix these structural issues then go ahead. But don't expect many people to follow suit.
You could pick pretty much any game this season and its the same - the thing is if we are seeing this, then teams who spend all week preparing to play us also see this and then as they have a proper manager they work out how to exploit our frailties!
 
We've played 40 games this season. Romero and Van De Ven have been available for 8 games together. We won 5 of them. Since losing them as a pairing; we've won 4 in 14 in the Prem.

Ange's inability to react as a coach - or having to play a 22 year old with an 18 year old at CB?
I’m sorry was it brand new information that we might play 69 games this season?

We played 41 last year and were equally shit.

Ange has only been able to field his top defence pairing about 20 odd times or whatever. He’s lost about half of them. So your argument doesn’t really hold much weight. He loses half his games regardless of personal. Because the tactics are shit.
 
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