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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Kiro Kompiro said:
What excuses? Its fact that we have the 6th largest spend. Its fact that the most expensive players have been injured for extended periods.
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No it’s not. That’s not a fact at all.
And are you talking about wages or transfer fees?

It’s an excuse. However you want to dress it up.

Who are you actually talking about though?

Richarlison?
Werner?
Two of our top earners.

Arguably back ups not even starters.

Gray has played instead of VDV. Cost almost as much as him. Earns more than him!
 
Matt1882 said:
I'm saying is don't want to chose and it shouldn't have to be as binary as one or the other.
We've had at least 2 cup finals when finishing top 4, haven't we?
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2 cup finals that we were probably the underdogs in.

Our point in the pecking order is below City, below Liverpool, but above Fulham. If those 4 teams are in the semi finals “hat” where’s your money at?

Do you honestly believe at the start of the season those 4 clubs have an equal chance of finishing top 4 and winning a trophy?

If so, I would love to live in the world you do!

We are not a super club, we are not the biggest spenders on wages or transfers.
Plus for a long time we would put out weaker teams in Europa league or conference than the PL to try to be top 4. Cups were not as important as the league.
Probably the first season that’s not going to be the case.
 
andertons_zimmer_fra said:
And it shows in the very few minutes the academy players had that they were able to make an impact. Even a club like Chelsea who are almost addicted to signing players seem to do a decent job of bringing academy players through, Ange’s deep reluctance to use academy players in the PL -even in the depth of the injury crisis - is part of that overall stubbornness which will get him sacked.

His failure to play them is not in the best interests of the club, it’s purely in self interest to try and save his job. We will no doubt see Solanke for 80+ mins today, which is not in either the best interests of Dom, Dane or Tottenham Hotspur Football Club.
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Which academy players came through for Chelsea this year?
 
WillWilliams said:
No it’s not. That’s not a fact at all.
And are you talking about wages or transfer fees?

It’s an excuse. However you want to dress it up.

Who are you actually talking about though?

Richarlison?
Werner?
Two of our top earners.

Arguably back ups not even starters.

Gray has played instead of VDV. Cost almost as much as him. Earns more than him!
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Gray earns more than VDV? Calling bollox on that one.
 
WillWilliams said:
No it’s not. That’s not a fact at all.
And are you talking about wages or transfer fees?

It’s an excuse. However you want to dress it up.

Who are you actually talking about though?

Richarlison?
Werner?
Two of our top earners.

Arguably back ups not even starters.

Gray has played instead of VDV. Cost almost as much as him. Earns more than him!
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Off the top of my head you can add Romero, Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Maddison, Sarr, Bentancur, Dragusin with lengthy absences.

I don't think Postecoglou is the man to take the club forward next season, but lets be fair, the injuries to numerous key players for extended periods has cost points and places on the table.
 
Kiro Kompiro said:
Off the top of my head you can add Romero, Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Maddison, Sarr, Bentancur, Dragusin with lengthy absences.

I don't think Postecoglou is the man to take the club forward next season, but lets be fair, the injuries to numerous key players for extended periods has cost points and places on the table.
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Yes, undoubtedly.

I think the issue,as a result is the lack of pragmatism that has seen to be absent... maybe.
 
Kiro Kompiro said:
Off the top of my head you can add Romero, Vicario, Udogie, VdV, Maddison, Sarr, Bentancur, Dragusin with lengthy absences.

I don't think Postecoglou is the man to take the club forward next season, but lets be fair, the injuries to numerous key players for extended periods has cost points and places on the table.
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I guess we are about to find out.

Pretty much everyone is back now and as much as fans might think about sacking off the league, there’s no way Ange and the players will be comfortable losing games. They will be trying to win every PL game left… let’s see what it looks like with everyone back.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Which academy players came through for Chelsea this year?
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Didn't say this year, but more generally:Colwill, James, Gallagher, Chalobah, Hall (sold for big money) in recent years.

But let's discount those players and compare this year only:
Chelsea:
George 16 Apps all comps
Acheampong 8 Apps
Tauriainen 2, Dyer 1, Rak-Sakyi 4, Ampah 1, Murray-Campbell 1, Antwi 1, Mheuka 3
Total 37 Apps to 9 players

Spurs - with an unprecedented injury crisis:
Moore 16
Lankshear 6
Scarlett 4
Ajayi 1
Olusesi 1
Dorrington 1
Total 29 Apps to 6 players.

Which academy would you sign for????
 
rusty said:
So why keep playing the same system and losing when you know your best players are missing for months not a few weeks ?
don't gve me to reinforce his system he's had 18 mths training tme to do that
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Based on what he said and the players have said, they've been training using youth players. When the starters aren't there to train together how do you bed the system in with them?

Secondly if he changes systems, he ends up with the half squad drilled one system, and half in another.

The third goal against AZ was straight from the training ground according to Maddison. That's what can happen when the squad is able to train together.
 
Richard Arlison said:
I guess we are about to find out.

Pretty much everyone is back now and as much as fans might think about sacking off the league, there’s no way Ange and the players will be comfortable losing games. They will be trying to win every PL game left… let’s see what it looks like with everyone back.
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To an extent I think you are correct.

The problem or issue is that we are now nearing the season's end,so unsure there is sufficient time for what you suggest.

My view is that the guy talks a lot of emotionally intelligent sense, as exemplified by his most recent press conference. That's distinct from overseeing a style of play tbat controls and ultimately wins football matches.

I just don't see him delivering
 
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bk_spur said:
I'm predicting 13 more points on the rest of the Prem season

Fulham - D
Chelsea - L
Southampton - W
Wolves - D
Nottm Forest - L
Liverpool - L
West Ham - D
Crystal Palace - W
Aston Villa - D
Brighton - W

That would take us to 47 points.
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Good morning.
Naah.

More like;

Fulham - D (borderline loss)
Chelsea - L (absolute tonking)
Southampton - W (meh)
Wolves - L (borderline draw)
Forest - L (back shots from Wood all game. I will get my coat...)
Liverpool - L (league celebration tonking)
West Ham - L (borderline draw)
Palace - L (pitiful pussyhole pathetic loss)
Aston Villa- L (Rashford England recall inspired stonking loss)
Brighton - L (end of empire vibes tonking as holiday plans kick in)

4 points.

All whilst he is allegedly going to win a trophy in his second season 🙄
 
Skeletor said:
Good morning.
Naah.

More like;

Fulham - D (borderline loss)
Chelsea - L (absolute tonking)
Southampton - W (meh)
Wolves - L (borderline draw)
Forest - L (back shots from Wood all game. I will get my coat...)
Liverpool - L (league celebration tonking)
West Ham - L (borderline draw)
Palace - L (pitiful pussyhole pathetic loss)
Aston Villa- L (Rashford England recall inspired stonking loss)
Brighton - L (end of empire vibes tonking as holiday plans kick in)

4 points.

All whilst he is allegedly going to win a trophy in his second season 🙄
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Not saying it can't happen- but, you don't think we can sneak in even one or two wins out of that with a "fully fit" squad?
 
Skeletor said:
Good morning.
Naah.

More like;

Fulham - D (borderline loss)
Chelsea - L (absolute tonking)
Southampton - W (meh)
Wolves - L (borderline draw)
Forest - L (back shots from Wood all game. I will get my coat...)
Liverpool - L (league celebration tonking)
West Ham - L (borderline draw)
Palace - L (pitiful pussyhole pathetic loss)
Aston Villa- L (Rashford England recall inspired stonking loss)
Brighton - L (end of empire vibes tonking as holiday plans kick in)

4 points.

All whilst he is allegedly going to win a trophy in his second season 🙄
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4 points 10games. With our first 11 back and firing.

Be worth a bookmark of this post to see how much of an expert you are!!
 
Notabadsquad said:
To an extent I think you are correct.

The problem or issue is that we are now nearing the season's end,so unsure there is sufficient time for what you suggest.

My view is that the guy talks a lot of emotionally intelligent sense, as exemplified by his press conference. That's distinct from overseeing a style of play tbat controls and ultimately wins football matches.

I just don't see him delivering
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Only one way to find out
 
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