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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
"I came to this club with a clear purpose of rejuvenating a squad that was coming to the end of a cycle.
"I just think we're in that position that the good stuff we may do is going to be turned into a glass half full rhetoric and from that perspective I don't think that can be a driver in what we want to do. The lads are really keen to bring success to the club.
"I don't think you're going to win that argument of convincing people, well I think [someone] wrote that even if we win it, I'm gone anyway."



Oh fuck off already.
 
i'll answer for myself. it wasn't simply a different opinion, it's the attacks and gaslighting that went on for months. it's the ange outers who had a different opinion and were attacked for it. it's after months of being roundly mocked for daring to point out that it looked like ange has been figured out and maybe he should adjust that my extreme dislike of ange inners came from. fuck all you for playing the victim now.
Seriously this one's vermin I do not read his crap it's been years. Weird don't cover him. Needy as fuck.
 
Ange talk about negative media is just a massive red herring. He’s had the media firmly up his arse for 2 years. The media love-in was unlike anything iv ever seen before when he first joined which was odd given he popped up out of nowhere and the media was already acting like he was a 5 time league title winner. There were songs about him and he had barely been at the club 5 minutes.

Since then he has been beyond appalling and the media still barely criticises him.

Wish he’d fuck off already. There is no agenda. You’re just shit and youve took us so far back we may never recover for years to come.
 
This for me has been the biggest disappointment of the Ange era. The abuse thrown by fans of the same team at each other has been disgusting, and for what? Having differing opinions....
Are we not able to intelligently put across arguments and counter arguments without throwing derogatory comments in there. We all support the same team at the end of the day.

I think we all 'used to', or hopefully still do, have that moment where we're somewhere random and we see someone in a Spurs shirt, and you think 'well done mate', like there's an invisible bond with someone you've never met. It feels like that bond is strained to its limits, on this forum anyway.

The sad thing is that it's not Anges fault, it's not Levy's fault, or Brennan's fault, or Romero, or anyone else that cops daily abuse on here.

It's our fault, the fans, the ones that sit at home churning out this vile shit day after day on here. Im not on other teams fan forums obviously, but are they the same? Or do we really have the most delusional, spiteful, fickle fanbase out there??
Nah. It’s the owner and the coaching team. They are letting the fans down and ripping them off for it.
 
They've already crossed the event horizon.

Stained forever.

They worship false idols, not this club.
You know I think you've actually crystallised this more succinctly than me. They are frauds end of, and generally in life I hate that more than anything else. They do not love the club. It's just a childish game of online edge lord BS for them. Whilst us the Nutters: Mrs P's me Murphy slap up and down the country pouring cash in. They have indelibly marked themselves.
 
Most agree now. However back in October (which actually would of been the right time to get rid) this was an unpopular opinion and a big portion of the fanbase would tell us we don’t understand football or “don’t have the stomach for a rebuild” for pointing out this guy hasn’t got a fucking clue about managing a premier league team.

Hindsight is always 20;20 .

The “ signs “ have been there for the past 15 months at least. I can actually understand why Levy wants to shed his tag of a shoot-from-the-hip chairman , especially mid-season.

It’s been tried too many times before.

Giving AP to the end of the season or when/if we exit Europa makes some kind of sense inasmuch as it might make it less likely for any potential successors as manager to be put off the gig .

We’re still in with a shot at getting something (very) significant this season ( for once ) . We shouldn’t be pissing on our chips quite yet . IMO .
 
Nah. It’s the owner and the coaching team. They are letting the fans down and ripping them off for it.
I don't even know where to start with what he's written. He just wrong so I'm glad you went right to the heart of it. It's not costing the frauds here a penny to keep boosting the useless coach or greedy owners. If he thinks our fanbase is difficult he should meet some Roma Millan Gala Liverpool fans. These people don't actually care about the club.
 
Seriously this one's vermin I do not read his crap it's been years. Weird don't cover him. Needy as fuck.
i find it funny that it's the cultists that come running out of their holes to attack me for suggesting i don't want a cup with ange. like they're going to save face or something by calling me a shitty fan. as always, i try and listen to those who've been supporters far longer than me and if those folks say "no you're wrong a trophy means everything" i reflect on my opinion but fucking shittydan and soduko? get fucked
 
Hindsight is always 20;20 .

The “ signs “ have been there for the past 15 months at least. I can actually understand why Levy wants to shed his tag of a shoot-from-the-hip chairman , especially mid-season.

It’s been tried too many times before.

Giving AP to the end of the season or when/if we exit Europa makes some kind of sense inasmuch as might make it less likely for any potential successors as manager to be put off the gig .

We’re still in with a shot at getting something (very) significant this season ( for once ) . We shouldn’t be pissing on our chips quite yet . IMO .
is the goal to 'shed tags' or win shit? winning shit involves recognizing ange ain't it and fixing it with enough time to salvage something this year rather than doubling down to the bottom of the table while disillusioning the majority of your fanbase. ange has been a disaster and leaving him in place this long compounded it exponentially
 
i find it funny that it's the cultists that come running out of their holes to attack me for suggesting i don't want a cup with ange. like they're going to save face or something by calling me a shitty fan. as always, i try and listen to those who've been supporters far longer than me and if those folks say "no you're wrong a trophy means everything" i reflect on my opinion but fucking shittydan and soduko? get fucked
Bravo. I fully hear you Mate . But I disagree only because I want a trophy for Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman she a complete warrior, her and Nutter-Naylor Nutter-Naylor they have done hard yards in support of this football club many can only dream of. Thousands of pounds hundreds of thousands of miles hail rain snow.

I fully respect you saying it's painful to take anything off this greedy owner and fraud coach but always remember ENIC and these online frauds, who support this coach, or Sonnny or Romero are NOT Spurs. Enic are custodians, and like the online fan club just passing through.

I was a young kid when we got beat by Coventry in the FA cup final and it hurt like hell. But believe me I can name you the team from Mitchell Thomas to Steve Hodge. The emotional investment isn't in Ange Postecoglou or any individual because it wouldn't survive the loss of Waddle or Gascoigne or Bale or Modric. It's an unbroken line that's bigger than the sum of the parts.

If we were to win the Europa I'd be estatic for Mrs Perryman and Nutter and Murphy and they would be happy for me that's what PerthPaul is really talking about when he talks about kinship he's confused it with the grandstanding of people who long knew Postecoglou was out of his depth but put their nationality and egos before the truth. They have caused the darkness. They ain't fans. We win you enjoy it man you have every right. Enic and their crazy decision are NOT Spurs
 

Gee they’re surprisingly impressive stats and yet some ignore and don’t comment and call him one of the most vile men. A poor coach is one thing but some of the comments on here are way over the top
 
Bravo. I fully hear you Mate . But I disagree only because I want a trophy for Mrs Perryman Mrs Perryman she a complete warrior, her and Nutter-Naylor Nutter-Naylor they have done hard yards in support of this football club many can only dream of. Thousands of pounds hundreds of thousands of miles hail rain snow.

I fully respect you saying it's painful to take anything off this greedy owner and fraud coach but always remember ENIC and these online frauds, who support this coach, or Sonnny or Romero are NOT Spurs. Enic are custodians, and like the online fan club just passing through.

I was a young kid when we got beat by Coventry in the FA cup final and it hurt like hell. But believe me I can name you the team from Mitchell Thomas to Steve Hodge. The emotional investment isn't in Ange Postecoglou or any individual because it wouldn't survive the loss of Waddle or Gascoigne or Bale or Modric. It's an unbroken line that's bigger than the sum of the parts.

If we were to win the Europa I'd be estatic for Mrs Perryman and Nutter and Murphy and they would be happy for me that's what PerthPaul is really talking about when he talks about kinship he's confused it with the grandstanding of people who long knew Postecoglou was out of his depth but put their nationality and egos before the truth. They have caused the darkness. They ain't fans. We win you enjoy it man you have every right. Enic and their crazy decision are NOT Spurs
thanks for this thoughtful reply. if we win one with ange i'll keep mrs. p and nutter and even salty mick in my thoughts and celebrate accordingly.
 
is the goal to 'shed tags' or win shit? winning shit involves recognizing ange ain't it and fixing it with enough time to salvage something this year rather than doubling down to the bottom of the table while disillusioning the majority of your fanbase. ange has been a disaster and leaving him in place this long compounded it exponentially

Once again you’re not wrong.

But IF Ange progresses us in the Europa he will probably stay on until we either win it ( please God ) or we exit .

The only reason for ditching him with , say six games to go ; would be to get an inspirational interim who could perform miracles and get us Europa Conference ( at best ) ; what would be the point?

If any of the residents of the old folks home for retired Football Managers were that good ; they’d probably still be in the game.

Hypothetically; if Harry or Raffa Benitez , Hodgson et al could be parachuted in and instantly turn the volume up to eleven ; then I’d be all for it obvs .

But for now ; conflating the long-term and the short-term will probably get us precious little. Our illustrious Chairman has proved that over and over again.

Dead Cats only bounce a few times , before they’re just a sad pile of fur on the floor .

Caveat: IF Ange really has lost the dressing room / fu&ced off absolutely everyone and the whole thing has become a dysfunctional shitshow : THEN the kindest and most sensible thing to do would be to put everyone out of their misery and roll the dice .
 
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This for me has been the biggest disappointment of the Ange era. The abuse thrown by fans of the same team at each other has been disgusting, and for what? Having differing opinions....
Are we not able to intelligently put across arguments and counter arguments without throwing derogatory comments in there. We all support the same team at the end of the day.

I think we all 'used to', or hopefully still do, have that moment where we're somewhere random and we see someone in a Spurs shirt, and you think 'well done mate', like there's an invisible bond with someone you've never met. It feels like that bond is strained to its limits, on this forum anyway.

The sad thing is that it's not Anges fault, it's not Levy's fault, or Brennan's fault, or Romero, or anyone else that cops daily abuse on here.

It's our fault, the fans, the ones that sit at home churning out this vile shit day after day on here. Im not on other teams fan forums obviously, but are they the same? Or do we really have the most delusional, spiteful, fickle fanbase out there??
I love your spirited defence of the club but ultimately the majority of the fanbase has been beaten to within an inch of it's life by Levy and so they take it out on one another. Levy doesn't even bother hiding his disdain for us anymore... he doesn't bother punching us, he just sticks his fist out and asks us to run into it and like lemmings we do. The 90 word statement that accompanied our recent financial results is proof ... "I keep hearing we are 9th richest club, but you can fuck yourself if you think I'm spending big dough in the summer so shut up, support the team, renew your season ticket or fuck off"

And this is why we fight each other. Our common enemy is untouchable but the enemy within is fair game.

If you support Levy or Ange then you're deemed part of the problem.

If you abuse Levy or Ange then you're not a real fan.

It is what it is, but it won't change until we are challenging consistently and winning the odd pot.
 
I love your spirited defence of the club but ultimately the majority of the fanbase has been beaten to within an inch of it's life by Levy and so they take it out on one another. Levy doesn't even bother hiding his disdain for us anymore... he doesn't bother punching us, he just sticks his fist out and asks us to run into it and like lemmings we do. The 90 word statement that accompanied our recent financial results is proof ... "I keep hearing we are 9th richest club, but you can fuck yourself if you think I'm spending big dough in the summer so shut up, support the team, renew your season ticket or fuck off"

And this is why we fight each other. Our common enemy is untouchable but the enemy within is fair game.

If you support Levy or Ange then you're deemed part of the problem.

If you abuse Levy or Ange then you're not a real fan.

It is what it is, but it won't change until we are challenging consistently and winning the odd pot.
The only bit we are asking for as we had over the second highest amount of cash for tickets in world football.
 
Ange talk about negative media is just a massive red herring. He’s had the media firmly up his arse for 2 years. The media love-in was unlike anything iv ever seen before when he first joined which was odd given he popped up out of nowhere and the media was already acting like he was a 5 time league title winner. There were songs about him and he had barely been at the club 5 minutes.

Since then he has been beyond appalling and the media still barely criticises him.

Wish he’d fuck off already. There is no agenda. You’re just shit and youve took us so far back we may never recover for years to come.

Like I’ve said he probably realises he’s out of his depth . Which can’t be a nice feeling. But we can’t just default to Ryan Mason ; again.

Surely ?
 
Once again you’re not wrong.

But IF Ange progresses us in the Europa he will probably stay on until we either win it ( please God ) or we exit .

The only reason for ditching him with , say six games to go ; would be to get an inspirational interim who could perform miracles and get us Europa Conference ( at best ) ; what would be the point?

If any of the residents of the old folks home for retired Football Managers were that good ; they’d probably still be in the game.

Hypothetically; if Harry or Raffa Benitez , Hodgson et al could be parachuted in and instantly turn the volume up to eleven ; then I’d be all for it obvs .

But for now ; conflating the long-term and the short-term will probably get us precious little. Our illustrious Chairman has proved that over and over again.

Dead Cats only bounce a few times , before they’re just a sad pile of fur on the floor .

Caveat: IF Ange really has lost the dressing room / fu&ced off absolutely everyone and the whole thing has become a dysfunctional shitshow : THEN the kindest and most sensible thing to do would be to put everyone out of their misery and roll the dice .
i guess i'm in line with the caveat. i don't think the dinosaurs have anything special to offer but the removal of the ange shaped tumor would be a lift in my opinion. i don't think the majority of the squad have any love for him at all. i'm sure he's an utter cunt to them if they show any resistance to his methods at all. but i'll freely admit it may take more than a new manager bounce and few weeks of training to deprogram them from the way they play right now. it's fucked either way likely.
 
i guess i'm in line with the caveat. i don't think the dinosaurs have anything special to offer but the removal of the ange shaped tumor would be a lift in my opinion. i don't think the majority of the squad have any love for him at all. i'm sure he's an utter cunt to them if they show any resistance to his methods at all. but i'll freely admit it may take more than a new manager bounce and few weeks of training to deprogram them from the way they play right now. it's fucked either way likely.
Maddison and Spence they will 100% tell you privately a different story to the public.
 
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Your average NBA team uses hundreds of different 5 man lineups in a given season. Not starting lineups, but ones that have taken the court at some point during the season. It's inevitable that some of them will post crazy plus minus numbers, in fact every team probably has at least one lineup that stands above the rest. Does that mean all 30 teams will start winning at an extremely high rate if they just start using their standout lineups all the time?

There's nothing more to what this redditor did.
 
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