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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Matt1882 said:
No smoke without fire.
But all the soundbites are confirming my belief now, that he's here until the end of the season regardless of Thursday.
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As he should be at this stage.

Anybody coming in would be on a hiding to nothing, taking on a de-moralised and demotivated squad, with a fractured relationship with the fans, and absolutely nothing to play for. Being out of Europa there is literally no upside to this for anyone aside from the wages.

The time to act for the club was before the January window, then it was before the Liverpool 2nd leg, then it was before we were out of the FA Cup, then it was the moment we were out. Then it was any time up to the Frankfurt 1st leg, and since then the club have had the final seconds of injury time following the Wolves match to do something to salvage this pathetic campaign.

But they didn't. If they sack him after losing to the Eintracht Hotdog then it's a display of outright negligence, because anybody with half a brain cell and a modicum of sanity can see that Ange ain't getting anything from this game. In the infinitesimally small event that we get a result to progress, it'll be in spite of the Manager and in no way because of him.

Ange should be left in place to take full ownership of the utter abortion that he has overseen.
 
TheSpurEst said:
Agreed, he does not provide environment for managers to work miracles and win big titles.

However he has been here since 2001 (!).

And yet we are looking at the worst league finish across that 24 year period.
Benchmark is not winning the league, but if form has been shit for 60 (!!) games already then I feel this is pretty telling sample.
It includes times when lot of players are injured, but also lot of time when they are not.
It includes times when we had massive amount of games in short period to play but also lot of times when there was just 1 competition to be in.
It includes two seasons when he had full pre-season with the side and had chance to make adjustments to squad (like to buy THREE new full-international side CBs, 3rd top scorer of division from previous year, plus number of really promising young talents).

And yet we are here. All the previous managers have done lot more with lot less, let's be honest.
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Oi, stop cherrypicking!

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Brian Fantana said:

View: https://x.com/tottenhamtiers/status/1912092719490486372?s=46

I thought this might happen. Levy has scared everyone off!
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I don't think it helps that we don't seem to choose our preferred candidate and just go for them, we like to line up a pool of hopefuls and have them dance around for us like it's a Britain's Got Talent audition.

Why would any manager look at that process and risk upsetting his current job for a position he might not even get because Levy prefers the way the Brentford manager swallows a sword?

If we went to Iraola and told him he's our choice, what are his terms, he'd be at the table talking turkey before dinner time.

Instead we've got the footballing minds of Levy, Cullen, and Munn drawing up a shortlist of candidates and working out who is the easiest/cheapest to acquire, whilst Lange awkwardly sits in a corner staring at pie charts on excel of Scandinavian teenagers.
 
Skeletor said:
The fuck???

Just read this on TotalSport yesterday:

"Tottenham's 17 league defeats this season matches the number of games they lost under former boss Mauricio Pochettino in his three seasons at the club between 2015 and 2018."

What!???
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It's true, but it's also cherry picking.
14/15 - his first season, we lost 12
15/16 - his second season, 6
16/17 - his third, 4
17/18 - his fourth, 7
18/19 - his fifth, 13
Ignore the 1st and 5th seasons where he lost 19
Or the 6th season where he got sacked whilst sitting 14th and lost 4 from 12 already. (and drew 4 winning only 3)

But that last season would still have seen, based on that poor form, 44 points. More than we're likely to get this season.
And he likely would have sorted it a bit to get us over 50, as did Mourinho in the end.
I can't see us getting past 40. At the moment, I can't even see us getting any more points.
 
Matt1882 said:

View: https://youtu.be/a18Ae4rgtWU?si=S5IKZzvxdW4SsvSs

Damning stuff. With evidence. Facts.

Get a grip Angebois. Your man is well, well out of his depth here.
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It’s genuinely embarrassing that he’s still in the job. As I’ve said before, he’s not just the worst manager to ever set foot in this club—he might be the most inept manager I’ve seen in the entire Premier League era.

At this point, the only plausible explanations for his continued employment are:

A) There’s likely a clause in his contract that guarantees a payout if he’s sacked while we’re still in the Europa League. Wouldn’t be the first time a golden parachute kept someone in a job far longer than merit ever could.

B) Levy is trying to make this club seem like a nurturing environment for future managers—‘look how patient we are, even when the ship’s sinking!’ It’s a tough sell, though, and this feels like wishful thinking if I am honest and the least likely reason.

C) Most cynically—and perhaps most convincingly—this could all be a long game from Levy and ENIC: keep Ange around just long enough to become the lightning rod for all the anger (let’s face it, he’s a complete prick and a shit manager it isn’t hard) that way, when he’s finally shown the door, the relief is so palpable we forget who hired him in the first place. Classic Teflon Dan—dodging accountability like it’s his full-time job.
 
HotShotTottenham said:
Annoying.

So, Tottenham fans demanding long overdue success is, “toxicity”?

Off you fuck. Don’t let that door hit your backside while you are at it.
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Let us not forget, HE was the one who started it all with the fans when he criticised us for not wanting to win the City game to hand the scum the title.

This man is an abusive gaslighter and frankly a fucking humongous cunt with a shallow and petulant personality that is a projection of his own insecurities.
 
HotShotTottenham said:
Annoying.

So, Tottenham fans demanding long overdue success is, “toxicity”?

Off you fuck. Don’t let that door hit your backside while you are at it.
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The problem is, you not only have outsiders making this nonsense up, but actual Spurs fans slurring other fans who can see what a fraud he is with it. Some of them like to think of themselves as better fans because they back anyone associated with the club, not matter how bad they are or how much harm they're doing.
Those fans are morons. Utterly thick as pigshit. They are all that is holding us back. Their contentment with such below par shite in the name "getting behind the team" is why we are where we are. If the stadium was full of "toxic" booing all the time, this would have ended a long time ago. Instead, when we beat whipping boys like southampton, you hear pockets of fans signing the frauds name.


Incomplete_usernam said:
It’s genuinely embarrassing that he’s still in the job. As I’ve said before, he’s not just the worst manager to ever set foot in this club—he might be the most inept manager I’ve seen in the entire Premier League era.

At this point, the only plausible explanations for his continued employment are:

A) There’s likely a clause in his contract that guarantees a payout if he’s sacked while we’re still in the Europa League. Wouldn’t be the first time a golden parachute kept someone in a job far longer than merit ever could.

B) Levy is trying to make this club seem like a nurturing environment for future managers—‘look how patient we are, even when the ship’s sinking!’ It’s a tough sell, though, and this feels like wishful thinking if I am honest and the least likely reason.

C) Most cynically—and perhaps most convincingly—this could all be a long game from Levy and ENIC: keep Ange around just long enough to become the lightning rod for all the anger (let’s face it, he’s a complete prick and a shit manager it isn’t hard) that way, when he’s finally shown the door, the relief is so palpable we forget who hired him in the first place. Classic Teflon Dan—dodging accountability like it’s his full-time job.
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I strongly think this is a retaliatory experiment against all the fans that whine we sack managers too soon.
The worst thing is, the next useless dud we get, could be next, could the the one after next, will go the same way. Our form will plummet, the performances will be incoherent nonsense, and those same fans will be begging for the manager to be given time.
Because idiots are incapable of learning from their mistakes.
 
Richard Arlison said:
I take it you are an Iraolian then?

What are you seeing in Bournemouth that makes him a game changer for Spurs?

I watched last night and they won but I didn’t see them string 3 passes together all game and Fulham really should have drawn at least.
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I'm not that into watching football outside of Spurs that I can really make such a claim tbh.

But on the face of it there are enough parallels with Poch coming in from Southampton that the idea appeals to me.

He has massively overachieved with Bournemouth for a prolonged period, a wobble at this stage of the season is entirely forgivable.

He seems to be at just the right period of his career to come to a club like us, on the up, and still young and enthusiastic enough to put his all into the task.

He's gotten the best out of a group of young players, and made a team more than the sum of it's parts. He has a system that the players seem to be well coached in and comfortable with. He's not just ground out results with boring hoofball.

So I think his style of football (Iraolaball???) is the kind that's suited to being transferred over to a bigger club, whereas I don't get the same feeling from someone like a Thomas Frank.

He's gettable, or at least certainly should be for us.

I'm not all out Iraola or nothing by any strecth, but to me he just seems so much like the obvious choice, as such I imagine Levy and co will cock up the search and we'll end up with something utterly ridiculous instead.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Or we were never interested
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Or the release clause is now trebled... Iraola doing the right thing by his current employees... look, I want to leave to go to Spurs, what about if I sign a new deal before end of season - you give me a mil singing bonus for doing you this turn and we insert a 12m release clause for me and my staff... 8m more than the 4m that is currently in there... everyone wins, except Spurs because we never win.
 
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