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Management Ange Postecoglou

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No achievement by Chelsea dwarves our achievement you bellend...

Angry Paul is back .. following me like a bad smell. I don’t ever interact with you (for a reason) so I find it weird you consistently want to interact with me.

Objectively winning a CL + FA cup is a bigger achievement than winning an EL. I know that hurts your little ultra tribal EDL hoolie feelies but it’s a reality of the sport. It’s ok. The nasty facts won’t hurt you.
 
thats true! but when you watch other sides as a neutral its different aint it.

watched a few videos on frank now though and hes defo far more of a football scientist than what we have now so thats straight away a big upgrade.
You don't know that though, because football isn't a science or more accurately science is only one part among many.

I'm not saying you're wrong, far from it, just that there are so many factors that need to combine near-perfectly, like a good timepiece.
 
, if we're gonna move onto the next chapter then you're gonna have to go with a manager with something substantial behind him.

I know just the man.

A leftfield appointment but it ticks your one and only box.

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I think the squad being behind him still is the real driving factor in keeping him tbh.

Also, like I said, sacking a man who just won the club a major European trophy would make the club look ridiculous and small time.

If he starts the season and continues the shit form in the league everyone will think the sacking is justified, regardless of the trophy being won.

This is such a stupid way to run a club. Don’t sack him because scared of the reaction from the crowd, even if you don’t think he’s the right man.

Just to give him 10 games and he stinks it up like he’s done for 18 months, sack him and we’ve wasted another season.

No thanks.

And for the players.
Sorry but they finished 17th getting beaten every week. No way are they as beholden to Ange as some Ange fans are trying to portray as a convenient reason to keep him.

Truth is once the new manager is on board and we are higher up the table, it’ll be Ange who.

Frankly any manager can’t fail to improve the side in terms of PL results
 
This is such a stupid way to run a club. Don’t sack him because scared of the reaction from the crowd, even if you don’t think he’s the right man.

Just to give him 10 games and he stinks it up like he’s done for 18 months, sack him and we’ve wasted another season.

No thanks.

And for the players.
Sorry but they finished 17th getting beaten every week. No way are they as beholden to Ange as some Ange fans are trying to portray as a convenient reason to keep him.

Truth is once the new manager is on board and we are higher up the table, it’ll be Ange who.

Frankly any manager can’t fail to improve the side in terms of PL results
💯 and also halfway through good managers won't be available too. Brain vs emotion here
 
My head says he is out of his depth at a team competing for top 4/5 every season. He has a low ceiling & his level is more of a mid table team. He is a decent manager & without the injuries I think would have finished top half. But he has his limitations & I can’t see him taking us further long term.
My heart says he won us an European cup & it seems so cold to sack him. So give him until Christmas & see where we at. & maybe the momentum of the cup win etc takes us forward. But my head tells me it will be the same old with his limitations getting in the way. Then you throw in all the incompetence of levy & Enic & lack of ambition & it’s not looking hopeful is it! The cup win has papered over a lot of cracks. Plus he could sign some more dubious players who are quick but technically limited. Then it’s another rebuild & next season will be a transitional one for a new manager who takes over half way through the season.
But on the flip side I think any new manager will struggle with Enic & levy holding us back. Everyone before has so why would frank or anyone else be any different. Be interesting to see what levy does?
 
Can't agree with that at all. You had an 18/19 year old midfielder from the Championship with no experience playing as a starter in the backline because he was the best choice and and there's "many teams" with worse starters? Interested to know which clubs have worse starting CB's than a pairing of an 18 year old Archie Gray and Ben Davies? Can't imagine many swapping their two starters for that.
Archie Gray and Ben Davies didn’t start that many matches together. Gray did fine and was not a reason we lost games. That’s just cherry picking.
 
Not entirely true. Our win % when Vic, Porro, Cuti, VDV and Udogie ALL start would have us comfortably in Top 4.

They just very rarely all started in the league together.

However they did all start in the final 5 games of the UEL - which we ended up winning.

We’ll maybe get to find out if there any truth to that next season- otherwise it’s just projection and extrapolation. Many managers did more with worse defenders and defenses. Ange did very little with a lot.
 
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