Management Ange Postecoglou

FightingIllini · Wednesday at 5:36 PM

Harry Vaginola said:
are you suggesting they should've crawled back?

Ratcliffe and Dan Ashworth (which was a whole other shitshow) never had or were going to have any confidence or investment in ETH, and just failed to adequately take on a search for a manager of their own. That should have been job #1 for new leadership, not spending money the club doesn't have on the former players of a manager they don't want.

Levy hired Ange. Maybe he shouldn't have and maybe he should sack him now, but he's the guy Levy chose for the role. It's different.

Done · Wednesday at 5:36 PM

Q Whats worse than all the shit you can read in about 120 forum pages about a club manager?
A Not being attractive for transfers (regardless of CL)

Make a fkn decision you bald fuck

_mehstg · Wednesday at 5:38 PM

White Van Jan said:
quite similar to Eddie Howe at AFCB before he got the NUFC gig.

ditto

Presume you also thought that Howe wasn't good enough for Spurs? Especially as Howe failed when AFCB were relegated?

Why are we talking about Howe now. We were clearly discussing the merits of Frank and somehow we've transitioned to Howe. Not sure why as there is nothing that links Frank and Howe together other than they are PL managers. But I'll play you game. No I didn't want Howe and I wouldn't take him tomorrow. He is riding a perfect storm at Newcastle but I wager he will struggle to juggle the demands of CL, PL and domestic cup next season just like he did two seasons ago.

Harry Vaginola · Wednesday at 5:38 PM

Phomesy said:
I will if you start capitalising the first letter after a full stop

again with another masterful take down! honestly you should be working for the intelligence services battling the russian ai bots or spreading propaganda to our enemies. truly, your brilliance is wasted here on tfc. the world needs you man!

Phomesy · Wednesday at 5:39 PM

Deuterz said:
Some of these same fans were the ones calling him a fat cunt when we were 17th and hadn’t won it and some of them will be right back to it when we are having the same exact results next season.

He has no actual confidence from the fanbase. Just some emotions. Even most of his supporters were turning on him before the cup.

For sure but having been in Bilbao and subsequent I think there's a lot more good will towards him than this thread suggests. Particularly amongst younger fans.

And I agree with you. I'm not sure him staying is the right decision for either party - but that European trophy will be forever even if he's gone by October (although I'm still not convinced he's staying)

Harry Vaginola · Wednesday at 5:40 PM

FightingIllini said:
Ratcliffe and Dan Ashworth (which was a whole other shitshow) never had or were going to have any confidence or investment in ETH, and just failed to adequately take on a search for a manager of their own. That should have been job #1 for new leadership, not spending money the club doesn't have on the former players of a manager they don't want.

Levy hired Ange. Maybe he shouldn't have and maybe he should sack him now, but he's the guy Levy chose for the role. It's different.

so sticking with eth into the new season was the right call?

Phomesy · Wednesday at 5:40 PM

Harry Vaginola said:
again with another masterful take down! honestly you should be working for the intelligence services battling the russian ai bots or spreading propaganda to our enemies. truly, your brilliance is wasted here on tfc. the world needs you man!

The world needs better punctuation, my friend. Or at least some punctuation

FightingIllini · Wednesday at 5:41 PM

_mehstg said:
Not sure why as there is nothing that links Frank and Howe together other than they are PL managers.

I mean, the similarities between Frank's tenure at Brentford and Howe's at Bournemouth are extensive and obvious.

Howe's success at Newcastle definitely weighs in my mind as a point in Frank's favor.

Harry Vaginola said:
so sticking with eth into the new season was the right call?

No, it was the wrong call.

Phomesy · Wednesday at 5:41 PM

Done said:
Q Whats worse than all the shit you can read in about 120 forum pages about a club manager?
A Not being attractive for transfers (regardless of CL)

Make a fkn decision you bald fuck

And sign some fucking quality players ffs!

Tottenham Massive · Wednesday at 5:42 PM

Phomesy said:
I do like Simon Jordan. Only thing on Talkshite that's worth listening to to

Funny you say that. He's the only one that makes me turn it off!

Ionman34 · Wednesday at 5:42 PM

Harry Vaginola said:
you got me. i called him a twat. i should be burned at the stake. but as long as i'm going to burn let say you're a twat too bro!

Couldn't care less what you call me.

What you won't see is a petulant "ooohh I'm a victim" whines about it.

You must be from Merseyside.

TottsAmazeballs · Wednesday at 5:42 PM

WillWilliams said:
I just had the time to look at the details of his sacking.

A few things have surprised me.

1/ I thought he must have failed to take Sunderland up in the play offs.
Even though I was pretty sure they had won. Maybe I dreamt it.
2/ turns out they did win the play offs. I was right.
3/. Also turns out Michael carrick was not the manager of Sunderland anyway!!

You learn something new every day.

Harry Vaginola · Wednesday at 5:43 PM

Phomesy said:
The world needs better punctuation, my friend. Or at least some punctuation

i have fucked up pinky fingers and can't hit the shift key easily

Ionman34 · Wednesday at 5:44 PM

Harry Vaginola said:
we're going to be 1970 brazil next season! i'm in!

Phomesy · Wednesday at 5:44 PM

Tottenham Massive said:
Funny you say that. He's the only one that makes me turn it off!

Darren Bent really gets your wheels spinning?

Harry Vaginola · Wednesday at 5:44 PM

Ionman34 said:
You must be from Merseyside.

ahh now there's some real abuse i can get behind!

manmountainbutters · Wednesday at 5:50 PM

Good spot by whoever it was that Frank is not being quoted by Brentford on new signings now (and was previously).

White Van Jan · Wednesday at 5:51 PM

_mehstg said:
Why are we talking about Howe now. We were clearly discussing the merits of Frank and somehow we've transitioned to Howe. Not sure why as there is nothing that links Frank and Howe together other than they are PL managers. But I'll play you game. No I didn't want Howe and I wouldn't take him tomorrow. He is riding a perfect storm at Newcastle but I wager he will struggle to juggle the demands of CL, PL and domestic cup next season just like he did two seasons ago.

I try and argue from a point of evidence.
You not so much

Riding a perfect storm lol!!

Deuterz · Wednesday at 5:53 PM

Phomesy said:
For sure but having been in Bilbao and subsequent I think there's a lot more good will towards him than this thread suggests. Particularly amongst younger fans.

And I agree with you. I'm not sure him staying is the right decision for either party - but that European trophy will be forever even if he's gone by October (although I'm still not convinced he's staying)

The good will is incredibly weak given he just won us a trophy. Any other coach would be getting worshipped.

He splits the fanbase badly. A huge portion will not be with him regardless as he’s burned bridges. Many (most of the match goers) will be but due to past history they’ll lose patience rapidly again.

Mostly wrong · Wednesday at 5:56 PM

dudu said:
completely different to United - like completely different _

Different club, different energy, different vibes from players towards the manager

unhelpful analogy

Shit manager underperforms club's expectations massively in the league but saves job by the skin of his teeth with a cup win.

Literal carbon copy.

Shadydan said:
Ange when it comes to trophies

Jose, Conte, Poch, Nuno, Redknapp, AVB, Santini, Francis, Mason, Stellini, Sherwood, Jol when it comes to trophies

17th placed finishes under Ange: 1
17th placed finishes under Jose, Conte, Nuno, Redknapp, AVB, Santini, Francis, Mason, Stellini, Sherwood and Jol: 0

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