A European trophy win is exactly that.
Something few achieve.
Same as managing your country at a World Cup.
Its an accomplishment however you look at it.
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A European trophy win is exactly that.
Something few achieve.
Same as managing your country at a World Cup.
Its an accomplishment however you look at it.
Sure and he can be very proud of it.
He's not a very good coach though and the jobs he'll get after Spurs will hammer home this point. None of the top European teams are buying the "he's a winner" narratives.
I can only go by my own eyes. I’ve watched a lot of MLS over the years and it has changed organically and slowly into a much better league since the late 90s when I moved to the US.This composition has changed and continues to change rapidly. Even Rooney 6-7 years ago was a different time for the league.
It's not rocket science that a massive gulf between three players and everybody else is not a winning-efficient use of money in a football squad, and there are lots of mechanisms by which teams are evening that spread out.
The bottom of MLS rosters (that's right bitches, rosters) remain very bad, but the starting XI nowadays is made up of players worth and making more money than League One guys get. And the quantity of genuinely good players keeps increasing beyond just the star retirement names.
The quality of play really was as bad as America-hating trolls said it was in like 2012. It ain't the Premier League by any stretch today, but the change has been very dramatic.
Where MLS truly stands after its Club World Cup awakening
The performances of Inter Miami, LAFC and the Seattle Sounders shed some insight into where MLS stands on the global stage.www.nytimes.com
Some good facts there:
"Miami and LAFC’s squads each have nine players earning above $743,750 annually, while Seattle has eight."
That's roughly 14k pounds per week, which is roughly double the average League One wage.
One of the great things about MLS is the union posts the salary of every player online. I wish the PL did this.
MLS Players Salary Guide | MLS Players Association
Every year the MLS Player Association releases our annual salary guide, listing each player in the MLS along with their current salary. We see this transparency as an extremely important part of our mission to support and protect the player community.mlsplayers.org
I’ve watched football in different countries at different levels (the scottish league is very poor. Organized, well trained teams of very poor playing standard)
The MLS nowadays has, i would say has a relatively high level of team quality. They hold their own against mexican teams after all. The problem is that the focus on goals and entertaining soccer means that the defending is often keystone cops.
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I agree that it's a lot better than it was 20 years ago. It's still a far cry from anything I could be fanatical about.
MLS fans will try to claim the better teams could compete in the Championship but that's just bonkers... if a single one of them B-level MLS players could hack it with a Championship club they would be there.
It's fine for what it is, like a minor league baseball game... an evening of light entertainment and convo accompanied by some overpriced beers.
There's an increasing amount of trade between MLS and the Championship in both directions, actually.
There's a lot of similarities between the two leagues, with the biggest difference that the Championship's structure and format makes it one of the most viciously competitive and entertaining competitions on earth, whereas MLS is like a parody of cartelized American Big Four meaninglessness.
Spending more money of course helps, but they're going to have to fix that problem if they want to get anywhere.
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Sure, ascending players are going to try to get to Europe, and those who can't make it there might end up in MLS, but do you think there's anyone who wants to play for a random MLS side rather than a random Championship side? I've no expectation that you could find any volunteers for that. Nobody is going to play for Charlotte or Colorado when they could be playing for Preston or QPR.
Sure. Although even with liberalized rules post-Brexit there's not total freedom of movement between the two leagues so it's a tad moot.
The Championship, like almost every other league on earth, is more financially and competitively imbalanced than MLS so comparisons are tricky. But if we're talking a mid-table Championship side, I think in most cases they are going to have better players like 8-15, MUCH better players available below that, and a better overall technical level and tactical quality, but the MLS teams are going to have the handful of best individual players and will have an athletic advantage overall.
If you actually put an MLS team in the Championship, over the endless crucible of that 46 game schedule, I think that lack of depth is going to be killer. And there is increasingly a quasi-PL layer at the top of the Championship who are miles better than any MLS team. But most MLS teams now have a more impressive (and better paid) group of players than the Championship relegation fodder.
That last sentence wasn't even close to true a decade ago.
Deleted member? who was this, anyone know?
I was just about to ask - looks like kcspurs, based on the fightinglllini post quote above
Does that mean he quit or got banned?
Or gets relegated...
That's a shame I was just going to compliment him for this prescient take
View: https://x.com/tombogert/status/1940905117496365412
Fukkin hell that's uncanny!!!"Following a post-season holiday in Turkey, Ange has agreed to return to the club to manage our Women's team"
You reacted to it you strange cunt