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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
CarrieFi said:
I just feel like we’ve all been told off by our dad and he needs a few days to mull it over and he’ll be fine again
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He doesn't have any responsibility to hang around and raise these kids into well balanced individuals.
He's more like mums new boyfriend after realising her kids are a pain in the arse. He's now asking if he's in the right relationship.
 
Jarritos said:
Oh Ange, this is case study on how you simply can not pick the narrative surrounding the game, you can only pick the squad mate.

Ange is our manager and his sole focus is to win, as it should be however yesterday was a once in a blue moon situation for the FANS. He is not a fan so yes, in his view it is "irrelevant" for squad selection, tactics etc, but the NARRATIVE is not irrelevant and this is where he went wrong.

He desperately tried to change the narrative having already failed to do so for the NLD, so he didn't learn his lesson. It is hilarious for a manger all season long to say that our style of play is what will determine our progress (not even table position) then suddenly stake it on our ability to beat Man City. He said this directly. Well Ange, when we're good, we beat city, when we're shit, we beat city, when we're meh, we beat city. We are Man City's boogey team. Did he even realise that it was under his management that we conceded our first goal at home to City since our new stadium was built? His alternate view was BS to begin with but because he was so desperate to eliminate the aspect of the North London rivalry, he tried to make it something it simply never was. Worse yet, because he believed so much in his own delusional narrative, it's made him lash out at the club and fans.

One thing that stood out to me in the post match press conference was his admission of the fans influence. He said the FANS got us extra time goals in the past, which is actually the most humble thing I've heard from him so far as manager. So for him to then proceed to call the fanbase "fragile" because of the anti Woolwich chants and apparent lack of support shows a massive contradiction in beliefs when you bare in mind what he's said all season long about the importance of the supporters free will to believe what they want - especially when things were going well and some were saying we could be title challengers. He effectively blamed the fans for the loss yesterday even if he didn't have the bollocks to directly say it.

And the final oddity which others have already pointed out is his sudden turn on team selection and tactics for THIS game. He finally started all three of our CBs together, shifted one to left-back, completely changed our shape out of possession with a prime Brighton level mid-block which was a masterstroke and completely stifled City in the first half. He even went with a false number 9 setup during attack with fucking Sarr being the furthest forward to press the ball. Call me cynical but this is Ange's most egotistical move as of yet. He had so much contempt for the narrative that we should lose that he FINALLY CHANGED TACTICS. He's sat back and watched us get battered week in week out with the same shite set-up but yesterday was the day he re-imagined the squad. No one can deny that those tactics and squad selection were out of character.

I change when I want to change and if think i'm going to throw this away for your benefit then you'll see the biggest change yet!

The fact that he is only willing to adapt the squad tactically out of contempt for the noise surrounding a match makes me doubt his composure. We could have had this set up (and it was a rather good one) against Woolwich (who play similar football to City), against Newcastle etc. His ego has leaked onto the pitch. He's actually lucky it's the end of the season because everyone can fuck off and calm down.
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Stop All The Clocks Again....

Joint best post of the day. Enjoyed reading that. Brilliant analysis.
 
Jarritos said:
Oh Ange, this is case study on how you simply can not pick the narrative surrounding the game, you can only pick the squad mate.

Ange is our manager and his sole focus is to win, as it should be however yesterday was a once in a blue moon situation for the FANS. He is not a fan so yes, in his view it is "irrelevant" for squad selection, tactics etc, but the NARRATIVE is not irrelevant and this is where he went wrong.

He desperately tried to change the narrative having already failed to do so for the NLD, so he didn't learn his lesson. It is hilarious for a manger all season long to say that our style of play is what will determine our progress (not even table position) then suddenly stake it on our ability to beat Man City. He said this directly. Well Ange, when we're good, we beat city, when we're shit, we beat city, when we're meh, we beat city. We are Man City's boogey team. Did he even realise that it was under his management that we conceded our first goal at home to City since our new stadium was built? His alternate view was BS to begin with but because he was so desperate to eliminate the aspect of the North London rivalry, he tried to make it something it simply never was. Worse yet, because he believed so much in his own delusional narrative, it's made him lash out at the club and fans.

One thing that stood out to me in the post match press conference was his admission of the fans influence. He said the FANS got us extra time goals in the past, which is actually the most humble thing I've heard from him so far as manager. So for him to then proceed to call the fanbase "fragile" because of the anti Woolwich chants and apparent lack of support shows a massive contradiction in beliefs when you bare in mind what he's said all season long about the importance of the supporters free will to believe what they want - especially when things were going well and some were saying we could be title challengers. He effectively blamed the fans for the loss yesterday even if he didn't have the bollocks to directly say it.

And the final oddity which others have already pointed out is his sudden turn on team selection and tactics for THIS game. He finally started all three of our CBs together, shifted one to left-back, completely changed our shape out of possession with a prime Brighton level mid-block which was a masterstroke and completely stifled City in the first half. He even went with a false number 9 setup during attack with fucking Sarr being the furthest forward to press the ball. Call me cynical but this is Ange's most egotistical move as of yet. He had so much contempt for the narrative that we should lose that he FINALLY CHANGED TACTICS. He's sat back and watched us get battered week in week out with the same shite set-up but yesterday was the day he re-imagined the squad. No one can deny that those tactics and squad selection were out of character.

I change when I want to change and if think i'm going to throw this away for your benefit then you'll see the biggest change yet!

The fact that he is only willing to adapt the squad tactically out of contempt for the noise surrounding a match makes me doubt his composure. We could have had this set up (and it was a rather good one) against Woolwich (who play similar football to City), against Newcastle etc. His ego has leaked onto the pitch. He's actually lucky it's the end of the season because everyone can fuck off and calm down.
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Completely ignore the fact that Udogie was fit for Newcastle.
 
Harrier said:
Ok, I apologise for the tone, I’m just finding the constant negativity of the last few days extremely wearing!!!!

When Conte has a rant, but wants to sod off he’s universally praised. When Ange has a rant (justifiably in my eyes) and wants to stay to sort it out he’s condemned!

The comments might/might not have been aimed at the fanbase. Are we that fragile that we then have to have hours/days of a pile on about it?!

I welcome Ange’s passion and I’m hoping he’s the man for the job.
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Conte has a prem title and 4 Serie A titles.

When he rants it's a good idea to prick your ears up rather than just call him a prick.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Is he recovering from 2 hamstring injuries this season?
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No he isn't recovering from 2 hams BUT being on the bench in the cold winter days and nights throughout the season, being a loyal servant to the fans and club ain't easy and even worse suddenly being rushed at a demanding Spurs LB pos up and down the pitch like a yoyo will be a high risk which would well blow his hamstring.
 
Skippa18 said:
Ange Postecoglou is clearly pissed off with the whole thing.

The whole situation is a reflection of our poor form and that reflects on him too he doesn't want us to be in someone else's shadow and rightly so.
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I don't think it is a poor form thing. If we were 3rd with our success already decided, even more fans would have wanted us to throw the match.
 
kingdawson said:
wouldn't be at all surprised if Slot isn't confirmed at Liverpool and Ange has had some sort of communication with them tbh.
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What other things wouldn’t you be surprised by?

Elvis is alive?
Aliens live amongst us?
Neil Armstrong never landed on the moon?
The twin towers were blown up by the CIA?
COVID came from a lab in China??

Actually hang on a goddamn minute……
 
Deuterz said:
He isn't. He will win at whatever club he goes to next.

His football is ugly and soulless and he wasn't a good fit for us at all, but Conte's methods can absolutely be successful in 2024. He's not Jose.
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For 10 games or so at the end of 21-22 we were the best or thereabouts team in the Prem under Conte. Much more emphatically so than under the first 10 games of Ange this season. And the football was decent. 22-23 isn't representative of Conte's career
 
thinktank said:
What he said was right.

And he was never given the players he needed for his very - renowned - strict system.

Instead of Bastoni he was given Lenglet ffs.

Should never have agreed to come here to work under a baldcunt such as baclcunt.

#ConteWasRight
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Jeeezzzzzzz how many more times is this going to be trotted out?!

Bastoni did not want to join us, it wasn’t for lack of trying!
 
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