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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
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For clarity, is this a positive vibe or a negative?
 
No doubt Ipswich was diabolical and very frustrating. I think there’s something missing from the discourse recently.

There are five points between Liverpool in 1st place and Man City in 2nd. There are also five points between Man City in 2nd and Fulham in 10th.

Every team from 2nd to 10th has mixed results this season because it is extremely competitive. If we had beaten Ipswich and Palace then we’d be 2nd, just 3 points behind Liverpool. But every team in the top half of the table is one or two wins from glory and one or two wins from mid table.

Wherever we finish this season , it’s likely we’ll have been one or two wins from something great or something bad. So the challenge this year is to get as much consistency as possible in a highly erratic and challenging league where any team can beat you or lose to you home or away.

There is NO doubt though that we are looking much better than last year and constant progress is all you can ask for. Most goals scored in the league by a mile, 2nd best goal difference behind Liverpool (big gap to third), improved performances against the big teams…

I read Spurs supporters on here and elsewhere suggesting our fixtures have been kind.

Villa, West Ham and Woolwich at home are never easy games. Newcastle, Man Utd and City away are also very difficult fixtures.

The win yesterday was a statement win.

City have lost 5 games in a row but the two other league games they have lost were away from home, by the odd goal.

What Spurs did to them yesterday is unprecedented. We smashed them 0-4 at home.

Spurs players and supporters must surely now believe that we can beat anybody, home or away, regardless of whether we go a goal or two down or not.

If the Spurs supporters actually unite behind Ange now, and make WHL the fortress it was under Poch, I truly believe ANYTHING is possible this season.

When Poch initially led Spurs we were one of a few Prem teams playing the high press tactics. Now the majority of teams attempt to play this way in most of their games.

Ange is doing something different and when it works we demolish teams.

We need to collectively believe in what is now CLEARLY happening and get fully behind Ange, his tactics and all the players when they are on the pitch.

If we fail to do this, at all home games going forward, even when things are not going well, it will say more about us than it says about Ange.

Here is a man who has had the balls to face down the media, treat them with the contempt they deserve, insist on doing it his way and prevail despite all the snide punditry and sniping arrogance regarding his CV.

I fucking love him now.

He's a man worth respecting.

No compromise; stick to the plan.

Forget about Levy for now.

It isn't worth conflating the problems we have with ENIC with what Ange is actually doing.

When Ange or the team need our support going forward we should offer it without needing to be asked.
 
It's the opposite of that.

Spurs topped the Premier League scoring table before the game against City yesterday. The attacking players have generally been doing their job; despite the wasted opportunities that would have seen Spurs even further ahead, in this particular aspect of our play.

It is the individual mistakes of certain defenders, regarding the positions they take up, giving away possession and generally appearing to lack focus and concentration at key moments, for 90 minutes.

When Davinson Sanchez, Dier, Aurier and Hugo did similar, under previous managers, they were dug out for it.

We know who has been making the biggest percentage of these types of mistakes so far this season.

He is a favourite of many.

He wasn't missed yesterday as Spurs demolished the Premier League champions, of the last four seasons, in their own back yard.

Those who think Ange has been the problem should consider this going forward.

Ange has been loyal to this particular player.

This may prove to be the main mistake Ange has been making in my opinion.

I also suspect that the individual concerned believes himself to be too good for THFC. I fully expect him to fail to reciprocate the loyalty shown to him, by Ange or the Spurs supporters, in the weeks and months ahead.
Or he's suffering a loss of form, like every other players does in their career, but for you that equates to him thinking he's bigger than Spurs?

FML!
 
Or he's suffering a loss of form, like every other players does in their career, but for you that equates to him thinking he's bigger than Spurs?

FML!
Romero has been consistent @ Spurs.

Consistent problems with self discipline.

Consistently displaying an arrogant preference for playing for Argentina.

Consistently making individual errors that lead to goals.

Romero needs to show he is a Spurs man.

Then I will respect him.
 
Romero has been consistent @ Spurs.

Consistent problems with self discipline.

Consistently displaying an arrogant preference for playing for Argentina.

Consistently making individual errors that lead to goals.

Romero needs to show he is a Spurs man.

Then I will respect him.
Yeah tend to agree, on this I am fully in the Ange camp, I want him to succeed and what makes it harder is bullshit player mutinees. You are well paid in a PL team, get your nut down and work hard for us. Maybe after a couple of seasons of consistently excellent performances you can get a move to an elite club IF you show you deserve it.
 
I’m sorry, be positive all you like but the point you’re making repeatedly is bollocks.

Yes, most football fans, I’d say roughly 99% of them would give Pep fucking guardola, winner of numerous champions leagues, premier leagues, Bundesliga, La Liga titles both as a player and as a coach more time and leeway after a bad string of results. Because he’s shown that he can win the big stuff time and time and time again. Sure you can question the difficulty of that given he’s always been at the biggest clubs, but to do to that consistently you still have to be a great “super” manager.

Ange has won a Scottish treble, which I’m sorry but isn’t at the same level as anything Pep has won, and leagues in Japan and Australia. They’re great achievements in their own right but they aren’t even in the same universe as the things Pep has won.

So yes, football fans would give more leeway to a person who has won the very top accolades time and time again, over a manager who has won some leagues but in competitions who would be blown away by the majority of other leagues. When you’ve won a certain amount, you’ve won more time. Ange can do the same by showing results over time like yesterday, but he has to build that faith first.

Tell people to support the team, manager, players more all you want and that’s fine, I’ll agree in a lot of cases, but to question if Pep had more credit in the bank to be given time over someone who hasn’t won an iota of what he has is nonsense comparison.

**editing this but leaving as is to say, this probably came across as needlessly aggressive in the first lines which wasn’t the intention, so apologies for framing it that way if it reads bad, but I do think it’s an utterly nonsense comparison.
Deluded Aussie groupies trying to put this joker and Pep in the same bracket, LOL.
 
Romero has been consistent @ Spurs.

Consistent problems with self discipline.
Consistent problems with discipline? In what way? To date he has 1 Yellow card this season. I believe it is his first or second since he was sent off against Chelsea last season.
Consistently displaying an arrogant preference for playing for Argentina.
Eh? I think you have him mixed up with Lo Celso. Romero has been virtually every present for us this season. The only place this "arrogance" you refer to seems to be in your own head.
Consistently making individual errors that lead to goals.
No argument there, he's been lacking so far this season. You seem to feel it's arrogance, I'd say it is a form issue.
Romero needs to show he is a Spurs man.

Then I will respect him.
He's not shown anything more or less than any other player in the squad. Every one of them has had a drop in form over periods of time. Were you calling them out to demonstrate they were "Spurs men" when they did?

Can you explain to me how a player demonstrates he is a "Spurs man?"
 
I disagree , the problem is when teams park the bus and don’t let us play football, it’s more the physical teams we struggle against - Ipswich and Palace spring to mind , I remember the last season at the original Lane , teams would try and park the bus but we would just steam roll them , get the early goal and their plan goes out the window, obviously it’s easier said than done but we need to be patient and just hope we can keep on improving the squad over the next few windows.

why doesn't everton or west ham spring to mind
 
Consistent problems with discipline? In what way? To date he has 1 Yellow card this season. I believe it is his first or second since he was sent off against Chelsea last season.

Eh? I think you have him mixed up with Lo Celso. Romero has been virtually every present for us this season. The only place this "arrogance" you refer to seems to be in your own head.

No argument there, he's been lacking so far this season. You seem to feel it's arrogance, I'd say it is a form issue.

He's not shown anything more or less than any other player in the squad. Every one of them has had a drop in form over periods of time. Were you calling them out to demonstrate they were "Spurs men" when they did?

Can you explain to me how a player demonstrates he is a "Spurs man?"
I know Daniel will be worried if Romero loses any value but your defence of him is embarrassing.

Romero is currently playing like a player who wants to leave and has been prevented from doing so.

If he doesn't want to sign a new deal Spurs should sell sooner rather than later before he makes any more 'mistakes', has 'lapses of concentration' or brain farts in big moments.

A Spurs man loves the club first and foremost and puts the needs of the club ahead of everything else.

Romero is a proven, petulant individual who often acts in his own interests ahead of all other priorities.

In summary I believe Romero should show Ange & Spurs the same level of loyalty and respect that he shows Argentina and you show to Levy.
 
I know Daniel will be worried if Romero loses any value but your defence of him is embarrassing.
Ah, the "Levy lover" defence. When you have no other recourse, fall back on that.

And you have the temerity to label my response "embarrassing?"
Romero is currently playing like a player who wants to leave and has been prevented from doing so.
In your head. He's playing like a man suffering a loss of form. Look back at his response to reporters who questioned him about the RM interest. NOTHING like a player who wants to leave but is being prevented from doing so.

Just because you shoehorn a scenario into your thinking, doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself.
If he doesn't want to sign a new deal Spurs should sell sooner rather than later before he makes any more 'mistakes', has 'lapses of concentration' or brain farts in big moments.
You're basing all of this from a report from Football Insider?

Dear God!
A Spurs man loves the club first and foremost and puts the needs of the club ahead of everything else.
Ok. So where has Romero demonstrated that he doesn't? He made himself available to play, before the international break, despite an injury that, if he had exacerbated it, would have meant he missed playing for his country. How does that stack up?
Romero is a proven, petulant individual who often acts in his own interests ahead of all other priorities.
Really? Proven?

I really would like to see evidence of that. Forget the discipline issues though, as I've already debunked them.
In summary I believe Romero should show Ange & Spurs the same level of loyalty and respect that he shows Argentina and you show to Levy.
Again with the "Levy lover" fallback.

You've got nothing here pal. You've invented a scenario in your head, and you've provided absolutely NOTHING of substance to back it up. As a result, you've invented another one where I'm defending Levy?

You're off your tits old son.
 
Ah, the "Levy lover" defence. When you have no other recourse, fall back on that.

And you have the temerity to label my response "embarrassing?"

In your head. He's playing like a man suffering a loss of form. Look back at his response to reporters who questioned him about the RM interest. NOTHING like a player who wants to leave but is being prevented from doing so.

Just because you shoehorn a scenario into your thinking, doesn't make it true, no matter how hard you try to convince yourself.

You're basing all of this from a report from Football Insider?

Dear God!

Ok. So where has Romero demonstrated that he doesn't? He made himself available to play, before the international break, despite an injury that, if he had exacerbated it, would have meant he missed playing for his country. How does that stack up?

Really? Proven?

I really would like to see evidence of that. Forget the discipline issues though, as I've already debunked them.

Again with the "Levy lover" fallback.

You've got nothing here pal. You've invented a scenario in your head, and you've provided absolutely NOTHING of substance to back it up. As a result, you've invented another one where I'm defending Levy?

You're off your tits old son.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS9zo00epzs
 
Ange is the man to take us forwards, I’ve said this from day one, he just needs our support and for us not to over react when there are hiccups in the process

I really think he deserves this season. The only way we will know if he can win a cup is to keep him in the job.

We are scoring goals and winning games by big margins. Yes we are inconsistent, but I’m Tottenham for half a century so inconsistent results are like water off a ducks back.

On a different note. Chelsea and Liverpool are going to be huge games in December.
Maybe Bentacur being banned forces Ange’s hand slightly too in his midfield style of play. Sometimes football throws you these situations that work out in your favour.
 
I really think he deserves this season. The only way we will know if he can win a cup is to keep him in the job.

We are scoring goals and winning games by big margins. Yes we are inconsistent, but I’m Tottenham for half a century so inconsistent results are like water off a ducks back.

On a different note. Chelsea and Liverpool are going to be huge games in December.
Maybe Bentacur being banned forces Ange’s hand slightly too in his midfield style of play. Sometimes football throws you these situations that work out in your favour.
I definitely feel this was the case regarding the defence yesterday
 
Ange needs to fire them up and tell them he expects nothing less than a similar performance against Fulham.

I fear we’re at our most vulnerable after a performance like that as we get ahead of ourselves and think we’re all Billy Big Bollocks.

If we’re actually going somewhere we need to double down and get that killer instinct rather than back off thinking we’ve already arrived.
Let’s hope so but you’d think sane would have been said previously before such games and we have come up short. Fulham last season case in point. Win that game abd we had CL in the bag and wouldn’t have needed to get all in a tizz over the citeh home game.
 
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