I don't know about the dressing room, but this is definitely sack imminent form. How on earth isn't it? He's now second favourite to be sacked at 3's with the bookies, and the others are Martin, Lopetegui and Oneill who are all mostly certs to leave. They, and Ange included are in a cohort to themselves, the next closest is Howe at 21's.
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I don't know about the dressing room, but this is definitely sack imminent form. How on earth isn't it? He's now second favourite to be sacked at 3's with the bookies, and the others are Martin, Lopetegui and Oneill who are all mostly certs to leave. They, and Ange included are in a cohort to themselves, the next closest is Howe at 21's.
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.
The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the hammer drop for some of you?
WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.
The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.
Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, like a father figure regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.
The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.
Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...
Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?
And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?
Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.
Shocking state of affairs.
I’m not about to dig into other supporters for it, but I have to say, I would be genuinely interested to know, if Ange was currently say West Hams manager, and we were currently manager less…. If he had them in the exact same place as we are now (which isn’t much different to be fair) same amount of goals and everything - from what they had seen, how many of them would be suggesting we get him in as our manager.
Have you ever seen the guy when we are winning just telling them to calm the fuck down and slow down?
It's like the fucking Benny Hill show on fast forward
It's like the fucking Benny Hill show on fast forward
If we can't compete with the Top 4 that's on ENIC.
If we can't compete with Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham and are tussling in the bottom half with Everton and West Ham then that's on the manager.
Can't say fairer than that.
If we can't compete with Brighton, Bournemouth, Fulham and are tussling in the bottom half with Everton and West Ham then that's on the manager.
Can't say fairer than that.
I guarantee the players all had the same thought after the Chelsea game last season. They realised the guy has absolutely no business being in charge of a premier league side.
Pertinent observation my friend.
Explain to me like I'm 5 how Graham Potter is any different than that
Tbh when we lost 4 nil away to newcastle last season the players looked bored with tactics. Just going through motions in that game. That was a red flag game for me.
Reason why weve got so many injuries is his tactics are burning players out. We need an olympic village full of athletic footballers to play consistently under ange. Impossible.
Ok…
So, I never mentioned Graham Potter anywhere, I’m literally making the point of how many people would see Ange elsewhere as he is, and want him here. My comment on the initial post I quoted was just around the way in which people defend what Ange has managed here.
So I’m not sure I’m the best person to answer your questions re Potter, what I would say is if you’re only 5, you might be over tired and language on this forum probably isn’t suited to your ears, so maybe bedtime??
hes exposed what fans are clueless too. the worrying thing is there's a fair few of them and thats why levy gets away with shit time and time again, he can feed them shit and they will sing about it. postecoglou still had people singing for him today before the game in the stadium! the hardcore were calling him a fat cunt a few days ago and the passtimers who go to the home games are singing for him.
thats the downside of having a 60k stadium, theres a lot that go just because its something to do, its not really an embedded passion football. they think postecoglou is a nice guy from tough beginnings with an X factor auditioners sob story. some people get football and a lot dont unfortunately.
thats the downside of having a 60k stadium, theres a lot that go just because its something to do, its not really an embedded passion football. they think postecoglou is a nice guy from tough beginnings with an X factor auditioners sob story. some people get football and a lot dont unfortunately.
All good points. Let's assume Postecoglou's system works. If so, how many additional Premier League ready players are needed to provide the depth and rotation to keep up the pace Spurs play at? And that doesn't even touch on your point of needing players at the next level up from players like Johnson and Werner.
Too late. We need to act in the next few days whilst we at least still have the cups and before the January transfer window. Really dont see us winning another game with the current set up.
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.
The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the penny drop for some of you?
WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.
The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.
Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, (like a father figure to some I imagine) regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.
The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.
Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...
Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?
And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?
Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.
Shocking state of affairs.
Bullshit baffles brains and he’s good at it.
Fans pay good money though and expect a return. No question fans overstepped the mark thursday. But the endless cycle of underachieving every season is frustrating the fans. And we charge top ticket prices.
It’s genuinely fascinating how some supporters seem ready to proclaim the apocalypse at our club should Ange be shown the door, as if he’s the final roll of the managerial dice and no one else in world football could possibly be entrusted with rebuilding this team. It’s the footballing equivalent of declaring the sun will never rise again should he depart—a dramatic overestimation, to say the least.
The devotion is, quite frankly, cult-like. And no, that’s not hyperbole anymore; it’s a serious observation now, I have never seen a manager at this club be so highly rated for doing so little; his tenure has become something akin to scripture—sacred, immune to critique, and alarmingly detached from the hard evidence staring us in the face, this idea that he will improve and this team will improve under him is entirely divorced from observable reality at this point, when will the penny drop for some of you?
WHEN his time with us inevitably ends (and it will), he might genuinely consider founding a religion lol, I am being sincere here as well.
The man clearly has a gift for rallying unwavering discipleship, even when the path he’s leading them down seems destined to dead-end in mediocrity and broken promises.
Perhaps it’s the allure of a charismatic grifter offering comforting fictions—a footballing pied piper for those in need of a figure to follow and adore, (like a father figure to some I imagine) regardless of whether his "hymns" lead to triumph or torment.
The idea that Ange is "a decent bloke" is pure, unfiltered copium. Let’s call it what it is: a fallacy. Time and again, his so-called geniality has been overshadowed by his passive-aggressive tendencies, thinly veiled insecurity, and a stubborn ego that refuses to acknowledge fault or adapt. The mask has slipped too many times to buy into the “nice guy” myth any longer.
Take today as yet another prime example. He deflected blame onto injuries yet again to explain away the shortcomings of his system and in-game management. We were 2-0 up, a more pragmatic, tactically astute manager—one with less hubris—would have adjusted, closed the game out or at least changed the strategy, and taken all 3 points or at the very least, a point. Instead, we got yet another demonstration of his one-dimensional, tragically predictable “Ange Ball,” a philosophy seemingly allergic to evolution or nuance; but you know it's "entertaining" right? LOL, what is entertaining about it exactly? Please tell me...
Oh, and about those injuries he’s crying about? Let’s not forget that he rushed players like Romero and Van de Ven back into action prematurely, likely exacerbating their conditions and sidelining them for even longer just to try and save his own bacon (shock) great news for a club in multiple comps isn't it?
And as for the replacement for Romero? We paid a hefty sum for Drags services, but suddenly, he’s not good enough Ange? It's all on Romero? Have we not lost multiple winnable games this season with both Romero and VDV fit? Curious logic, isn’t it people?
Perhaps the real injury we’re dealing with is Ange’s fragile ego—it’s proving far more detrimental to the team than anything else at this club currently, the only one who supersedes him in the failure olympics is Levy but even he can't be blamed for the awful results we have seen this season.
Shocking state of affairs.
Are you a journalist? If you’re not, you should be.
Think he's likely a dead man walking now tbh.
Some of the stuff is really nice to watch at times but the defensive issues are too much to overcome.
Absolute moron moments from the players for the pens though has to be said.
Not sure who will be next?
Some of the stuff is really nice to watch at times but the defensive issues are too much to overcome.
Absolute moron moments from the players for the pens though has to be said.
Not sure who will be next?
The stadium has been a disaster so far.
.. guy only has one gear in the gear-box.
never varies play no matter who the opposition.
with the injuries to the back-line - with the matches coming up - his days are numbered