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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
Fair comment.

Although the poster I was quoting suggested this is why he'd keep his job and why he'll only be sacked if results were (quote) really bad

If that's the case, I'd find that alarming. The managers ability to manage a football team should be his overriding job requirement. Not his willingness to suck up to his boss
Among other negatives of Levy's ownership, constantly sacking managers for failure to live up to an expectation level that isn't reasonable given the paucity of resources Levy has provided has been a regular hinderance for us.

If Ange being less squeaky of a wheel brings him the patience that he (and several of his predecessors) merits, then so much the better, squeaking wheels aren't going to get us anywhere anyhow.
 
Can we cease and desist with the 'what drives these sad fools to say the same thing on the internet over and over again'.

We're all sad fuckers. There's no moral distinction between 'moaning' and 'moaning about moaning'.
"Fuck off you cum guzzling Cultist Gooner cunt..."














Is the kind of thing you suggest posters NOT say!
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Among other negatives of Levy's ownership, constantly sacking managers for failure to live up to an expectation level that isn't reasonable given the paucity of resources Levy has provided has been a regular hinderance for us.
Now this I agree with 100%

I'm not saying Ange should be firing off shots at Levy at every opportunity. I'm not even criticising him for taking the flak on his own shoulders.

It's just the idea that his willingness to protect his boss should be a good enough reason to keep his job that sits uncomfortable with me.
 
I am not referring to the prime minister joke, I am referring to this…


View: https://streamable.com/jkt4tr

Can you point to me what is tongue-in-cheek about what he said in the above clip?

I do wonder why people keep trying to reframe this…

You’ve clearly not met many Aussies!

Why is there the need to forensically dissect every detail the bloke says?!

Jeez some on here are worse for it than the media scumbags!
 
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Now this I agree with 100%

I'm not saying Ange should be firing off shots at Levy at every opportunity. I'm not even criticising him for taking the flak on his own shoulders.

It's just the idea that his willingness to protect his boss should be a good enough reason to keep his job that sits uncomfortable with me.

John, not a single person on here believes that Ange would be kept on regardless of results because he won't speak out against his boss. This is a narrative being hypothesised by those who can't understand why he is still in the job despite inconsistent form. And whilst it is a fair hypothesis, that's all it is.

Just because speaking out publicly against your boss is a more direct route to getting the chop, not speaking out doesnt really infer the opposite. Does it make it easier to keep someone on if they arent creating additional toxicity - sure - but no amount of sealed lips about the hierarchy would have, in my opinion, kept Ange in a job had he lost to Southampton and last night.
 
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I listened to the presser for the first time in ages,and a lot of what Ange said makes sense to me, especially about social media and pundits. He makes a good point about how many players we have missing, as it doesn't even get a mention, whereas Man C are struggling because they are missing one player.
 
How well was Ange doing when he had basically all of that?

This is the issue. Yeah we have injuries and should take it in to account. We still had a point from two games against the two promoted sides PRIOR to injuries.

We weren’t consistently picking up points pre all those being out and we aren’t afterwards either.

We had this last season too btw - wait till Ange gets his players back. Well he did and we still weren’t consistent.

If I thought with a fully fit team we’d be flying then I’d be behind him. We aren’t and won’t be. There will always be excuses for this man.
Oh last season when Levy sold our best player and never replaced him .
 
Oh last season when Levy sold our best player and never replaced him .

And bought him VDV, Maddison, Udogie joined for the season, Brennan Johnson, Dragusin, Vicario..

Also no not last season! This one! Ipswich and Leicester when we were full strength. We were full strength for Palace and Woolwich too. Why do people act like our form fell apart post injuries, we were a bit rubbish before them..
 
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I have to admit, I'm all over the place with Ange.
Post Palace/Ipswich I was on the out side but then along comes Saints, Man U and the last two pressers where he genuinely opens up about who we are mate and I'm in again.
It's doing my head in.
So, having spent the day reflecting and having had a glass or two, fuck it. I'm in.
Not sure my old ticker will handle it but I'll go out entertained.
COYS
 
And bought him VDV, Maddison, Udogie joined for the season, Brennan Johnson, Dragusin, Vicario..

Also no not last season! This one! Ipswich and Leicester when full strength. We were full strength for Palace and Woolwich too. Why do people act like our form fell apart post injuries, we were a bit rubbish before them..
VDV and Maddison were players the club should have signed years prior to Ange arriving, they were essentially replacements for Vertonghen and Eriksen signed years too late.

Likewise Vicario, a serviceable at best replacement for Lloris that should have been signed 2/3 years earlier than he was.

Udogie was a LWB signed by Paratici for Contes 523 system that has been moulded into a talented if flawed inverted LB.

Dragusin is a backup CB that was signed after Ange had been left half a season with only 2 CBs.

The above is not backing a manager. It’s doing the absolute bare minimum needed to keep us semi competitive after the squad had been left to rot for years.
 
Results are all over the place Arteta has had 5 years at Woolwich and been backed way more than Ange , that is an indisputable fact . They have 30 points from 16 games so averaging less than 2 points per game , current trajectory that gives them a low to mid 70’s total . Where we sit is not ideal but Ange has had less time , less money and now has the added issue of a toxic fan base chanting Levy out , a sentiment admittedly I share . He is NOT the issue imho

Our squad is an absolute fecking joke in terms of both depth and quality by comparison to our main rivals .

EDIT: There are smaller clubs above us , none of which have an injury crisis, or European football or are in the latter stages of the Carabao Cup

Fuck me Leicester won a league title cos things fell that way
 
VDV and Maddison were players the club should have signed years prior to Ange arriving, they were essentially replacements for Vertonghen and Eriksen signed years too late.

Likewise Vicario, a serviceable at best replacement for Lloris that should have been signed 2/3 years earlier than he was.

Udogie was a LWB signed by Paratici for Contes 523 system that has been moulded into a talented if flawed inverted LB.

Dragusin is a backup CB that was signed after Ange had been left half a season with only 2 CBs.

The above is not backing a manager. It’s doing the absolute bare minimum needed to keep us semi competitive after the squad had been left to rot for years.
Conte blanked Maddison supposedly.
 
I have to admit, I'm all over the place with Ange.
Post Palace/Ipswich I was on the out side but then along comes Saints, Man U and the last two pressers where he genuinely opens up about who we are mate and I'm in again.
It's doing my head in.
So, having spent the day reflecting and having had a glass or two, fuck it. I'm in.
Not sure my old ticker will handle it but I'll go out entertained.
COYS

Are you really sure you want to be entertained?

I have a nice, calming shot of Sir Gareth Southgate waiting to double defensive pivot you gently into your final years.


Gareth Southgate Celebration GIF by BBC



Yours Sincerely

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