You know we were losing games for fun with the first choice defence. Mate we are taking 1.39 per game. That's now over a near 38 game metric. We are incredibly consistent. The run he is capable of using all the data, inclusive of his vaunted first choice line up leaves us 11th. You are simply ignoring what's happening.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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After Leicester collapse, when they got relegated after finishing 5th, 5th and 8th in previous seasons - relegation fighting scenario is not that unlikely for me.
League games. Let's be explicit league games. Above the maths for league games paint the true picture. Not skewed by Coventry Carrier bag and such like.
No we didn't. Most of those games were against shite like Coventry and Carrierbag in the cups.
Since the first 10 games of last season, this idiot useless twat of a coach has managed 3 league wins in a row ONCE.
This season he managed 2 in row ONCE.
LEAGUE GAMES.
Not cup games against lower league fodder.
You're either a troll or an idiot. Which ever one you are you're fucking good at it.
In the league.
Who did we beat in those five combined games?
He’s not really strung more than two wins together in the league since that early run ended. And he’s had his full, first choice 11 available at many times too since then.
To be honest, We really have no say in what happens ,we just have to hope things change for the better results wise.
Reckon he's sufferer some kind of serious head injury as he has the memory of Dory.
Good Lord, imagine actually comparing the two teams... please do your research as to why Leicester got worse.
I think some people just want to see positives and have hope mate, no need to be personal.
The idea of waiting until the summer assumes we have the luxury of time, but the truth is, this season could spiral further into irrelevance if we stick with a failing system. We could, quite literally, be throwing away the chance of winning a cup.
The notion that the players are ‘behind Ange’ sounds nice, but backing a manager emotionally doesn’t always translate into results on the pitch. If anything, it makes our current form even more damning. If they are playing for him and we’re still this bad, that’s a bigger indictment of his methods than if they’d given up entirely.
As for Mason, I don’t think anyone is genuinely suggesting him as a long-term solution; the point of bringing him in temporarily would be to simply remove the manager before any more long term damage can be done but the replacement should ideally already be lined up.
Leaving Ange in charge when the metrics and performances clearly show regression isn’t patience; it’s negligence.
Just to refresh people's memories
Coventry (league cup)
Brentford
Carrierbag (ropey league)
Man United
Ropey league game against unspellable team
We won 2 league games from 5 fixtures.
Brentford who have been 2024's worst away team in the PL.
Man United who are horrendous, playing to get their coach the sack AND had 10 men for 50 minutes.
And still these fucking muppets think things will get better.
WE DON'T BEAT GOOD TEAMS
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relax and calm down with the name calling. Doesn't make your case sound any stronger when you resort to that.
We beat Brentford and United in that run and were able to rotate players in the cups and Europa and still win. We've lost all ability to rotate because of all the injuries so have to play the same team every 3 days for the past month - that would destroy any team or manager. You are completely downplaying all of that to suit your narrative that everything is an Ange problem and that some new manager would come in and instantly get us winning games with forster in goals and 1 fit centre backs!
Yeah its not 1:1 but still. Consistent top 8 team collapsed. And they still were able to spank teams like us during their relegation season. Can happen again. Especially since our pace right now below 50pts/season. Couple extra losses and it can be ugly.
Nah, it's beyond that.I think some people just want to see positives and have hope mate, no need to be personal.
It is either trolling or there is something seriously wrong in his head.
I guarantee you, there's would be a handful of them who would argue we should keep him if we wer rock fucking bottom of the league.
"No point sacking him now, we'll need him to get us back up next season"
Half the stuff you're saying here I agree with, I said that he should be sacked if our season continues like this or if we someone worthy to replace him with. the fact is if it spirals into further negligence then he more than deserves to go, I think he's actually lucky to still be in a job however there isn't a scenario that any sane Spurs fan should want where Ryan Mason takes over until the end of the season, if you're scared of throwing the chance of winning trophies then you can't propose a scenario of a inexperienced coach to take over to save our season, it's contradictory and nonsensical.
If the players are playing for him and are behind him then why everyone think that Mason coming in is going to get more out of them, it's not as simple as dropping the high line and not inverting the full backs, such a simplistic argument.
This is such a non comparison.
“The sun will rise. We will be back.The greatest test is when things are going badly.
The greatest test that I've ever had. We will come back.
That's the truth. The main, main reason is having seven, eight important injured players.
And with a game every three days, it's more difficult."
The greatest test that I've ever had. We will come back.
That's the truth. The main, main reason is having seven, eight important injured players.
And with a game every three days, it's more difficult."
It’s based on the fact that Ange is the worst manager this club has ever had. He has publicly said he has no plan b or c. He will continue to tell players to play out from the back when they haven’t got the technical ability to do so. Then he tells them to stand on the half way line to play a suicidal offside trap. Then when players are busting a gut trying to get back from playing said high line, they start dropping like flies with injuries.
Then what does he do? He rushes them back to the starting line up when they are clearly not ready and guess what happens? Go on guess.
He’s a fucking clown mate. A one trick pony that was sussed out after the grand total of TEN games last season and ever since then it’s been a disaster. He stands on the sideline looking shell shocked that his one dimensional tactic has been nullified with ease by even the lower table premier league managers.
Sky sports commentators are literally laughing at us during games now with how Ange has told us to play. Mason can steady the ship for 6 months then we can go back to square one and get a new manager in the summer.
And also for good measure, I’m pretty sure the players have had enough of Ange too.
You just want him sacked with no plan or anything. What is your plan if we sack him tomorrow? Mason? Potter? The dortmund lad? Just dive into one of them and start playing pragmatic to nick a few results to move us up the league table just for some quick relief or gratification?
Instead of calling me an idiot and making comments about me having suffered from some type of head injury, why not try to listen and understand that some fans have a different opinion to you. My opinion is that yes Ange is struggling and I have big doubts, but I also appreciate the ridiculous injury crisis we've had during a busy spell where we have a game every 3 days and have had to run all our fit players into the ground. I also think sacking him during the mid season when we've clearly no obvious target lined up is a smart play either. For me I don't see the problem with letting him finish out the season and making the correct calculated call in May when we have all the evidence need and have our homework done on a new target. To me thats a better long term strategy to make sure this project doesn't just fall off a cliff..
I'm sorry that you think I'm a troll and an idiot but thats my reasoning. Abuse me all you want and call me names. Just block me if you disagree maybe because you clearly can't handle a debate and don't want to listen to the other side.
We’ve won two league games in a row four times since 2023.
Not everything relates to the current run of injuries.
Last season, we got hit with injuries, we all got told to wait till they’re back, we did, we had a poor run still and somehow scraped fifth even though thanks to the first ten games we were in a great position.
THIS is the pattern, with lots of injuries, we’re terrible, with all the players back, we still aren’t that good.