At the moment, any club would fancy their chances against our team and manager.
Nothing particularly good or clever going on at all.
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Nothing particularly good or clever going on at all.
Of course you do mate, all those things you constantly get right. The only reason you’re clinging on to this Ange stuff is so you don’t have to admit you were wrong AGAIN
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I mean he did and he has lol
That's one of the reasons why Maddison hasn't played as much as people want as he's weak in duels
By the way this isn't any sort of vindication on whether I think Ange has been 100% correct in his management and his adaptation because he's really produced some tactical fuck ups everyone can see that, it's merely to counter the point that he doesn't adapt, there's so much evidence to say that he has but people think he only has one way which is nonsense.
He does adapt, but not on the scale he needs to, and not beyond pre-match and half time. It’s during matches that he seems happy to let it play out, and doesn’t really tinker which is what’s baffling and frustrating.
When people say he’s inflexible I think it’s more in depth, defensive and in-game on the fly.
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I won't argue that.
I don’t think Ange’s lack of adaptation is as much the issue as his adaptations being shit and stupid.
Persisting with some sort of a central press at all costs (even as our players tire) and trying to build our attacks around Timo and Brennan beating a man and firing in early crosses is a plan B, I’ll give him that, it’s just a terrible plan.
Persisting with some sort of a central press at all costs (even as our players tire) and trying to build our attacks around Timo and Brennan beating a man and firing in early crosses is a plan B, I’ll give him that, it’s just a terrible plan.
Sean Dyche = low block...Yep and this is exactly the same strategy most managers choose to take including Ange so I don't know what your point is...
The rest just lol well okay this is where you're meant to rebuttal the argument or are you just gonna concede the point and laugh it off because you're wrong? Ill go with the latter...
Yes go and watch the match again, we sat in and chose to hit them on the counter, we pressed when they were in their first phase and dropped back in a mid to low block when they moved the ball up the pitch.
BTW just so I get an understanding of your football knowledge... literally every team sits in a low block depending what phase their in and where the opposition have the ball, the fact that you think that we cannot sit in a low block and yet press teams high up the pitch in different phases is once again typical of someone who only sees football through a basic spectrum, good thing you were at the match to catch that though I suppose...
What about Australia and Japan
Ain't winning either.
Or really sure about imposi g ourselves. V wolves 2nd half they dominated us in 2nd half. We didn’t really look like scoring. That’s with us being at home, them in bottom 4 and missing a few players.
J League was 26 or something. I didn’t check Australia because those examples were bad enough lolWhat about Australia and Japan
No imposing ourselves in the second half against Brighton or Chelsea, a number of games we could also mention.
So far, he is the worst Tottenham manager I have seen in 30 years or so.
I honestly don’t hate Poch, I’m nearly 60 and he gave me two of my favourite seasons as a Spurs fan (I have to go back to the 80’s for other favourite seasons) and I think despite not winning anything he’s possibly the best coach we’ve had in my time.
And I don’t think Ange is the messiah either, last year I was pointing out the flaws when we were winning, likewise got stuck in this thread when we were on winning form for pointing out what I thought were inherent flaws. And fuck knows some of his decisions lately really fuck me off.
But I’m also realistic enough to see that when Poch wasn’t presented with good recruitment his football turned to shite, even in the peak years some of his decisions cost us titles/cups, and last year his £1bn Chelsea shipped more goals than Ange and his “no defence” football.
Likewise, these guys that keep saying Ange doesn’t adapt, don’t spend a fucking nano second actually analysing whether he actually does tweak things tactically, because he does. But you can’t tweak a VVD or a Toby A, Vertinghen, a peak Kane, a peak Son, Eriksen, Dembele, Wanyama etc until we build another great team, whoever we appoint will fuck us off. The one thing all those managers had were at least one or two top of the tree players. Modric, Bale, Kane etc. Ange doesn’t even have one of those to carry the team.
I remember during the dog shit Mourinho/Conte years people saying “I wouldn’t mind losing if only we were trying to win”. Turns they are going to whine about losing no matter how it happens. Who knew.
I’m ambivalent about what happens to Ange now, finding it hard to care, but until we recruit another good team, we won’t be one, no matter who’s in charge.
And this is the the most competitive PL, with better coaching and players from top to bottom, there has ever been. By a fucking mile.
Competitive, yes, but also a few of the ‘big’ teams are misfiring. It’s quite an open league (except Liverpool!), it’s just a shame we’re not good enough to take advantage of that.
Kane, Eriksen, Walker, Verts, Toby, Lloris, Dembele is a level of athlete and footballing skill lightyears beyond anything we have at the moment.
Maybe that's a coach issue and can be fixed by changing manager but I'm not so sure. We'll find out soon enough
Poch definitely improved some players - especially Walker and Rose. So there's that
Tbh i think santini was one of the worst. Looked a bit slow as well in.press conferences. He bailed out as soon as the results turned against him. Dreadful appointment.
His football turned to shite did it? You mean right at the end, when his team was ageing and he'd been subjected to years of austerity? Imagine my shock. Guys, if you sell the best right back in the league, let Dembele get geriatric, let your centre back partnership go past their peak with no replacements and sign the likes of N'Jie and Nkoudou as squad players, your team gets worse. Amazing. Pochettino got ONE transfer window of spending, which admittedly saw terrible recruitment. He probably was given too much control over that and that's my singular criticism of his time in charge, there's a reason even Klopp didn't get control over transfers. It's a bad idea.
Not going to re-start the Poch at Chelsea argument. The issues every other coach had there speak for themselves. Hand a manager 500 players and tell him to make a team and they'll all struggle. He managed to get things stabilised. They have some tasty attackers but a terrible backline and goalkeeper with 23 goals conceded so far under Maresca.
Pochettino didn't get handed a top of the tree player, he made him. And when you're mentioning the likes of Wanyama when we have Maddison, Bentancur and Bissouma at the club, I can't take it seriously, sorry.
Yeah shock horror fans won't tolerate being 12th in the table. I think when people said that they meant the results not being borderline relegation level, they probably envisaged being around the top 6. Obviously results count. Nobody is happy with fun performances and being 20th.
No it isn't. Maybe mid-table teams are stronger than ever. The traditional top 6 are not, which is what should be relevant to us. Liverpool are very good, other than that there's windows of opportunity everywhere. You look down your nose on fucking Howe all the time but with a practically even net spend in the last 2 summer windows and Burn, Dubravka, Murphy, a geriatric Trippier etc he's 6 whole places above us. Hold that L.
Wasn't he only here for about 2 months or something like that.