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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I absolutely do not want Ange backed.

He's not good enough. We have no future with him.

I fully appreciate that ENIC are the root cause, but this fella just isn't up to it.

Right. Imagine watching Ange destroy this club on the pitch over the last 20 months, and your question is back him or sack him. Of course it's sack him. You actually have to be an idiot to even think backing Ange is a sensible thing to do. Literally anyone even asking that question is clueless. You might as well give 250 million to Ted Lasso to spend.
 
Agree to a point.

I don't agree with them being handicapped. How come no matter who is in charge of them cunts, or fucking Chelsea, or fucking WEST HAM under the likes of Moyes are almost ALWAYS up for these games more than we are? Even under conte/Mourinho. We have a weak squad, weak players, there's not one leader in this squad.
theres a lack of leadership 100% which is why giving son ther armband was pathetic, that should of at least gone to someone who has to have a shave every now and then.

the players are drained mate, its been a year of shit results. the idiot has them up so high that they cant lose the ball or they know they are doing intense sprints back every single time. the tactics are a dream to play against not for.
 
I don't mean this to sound shitty and snarky about the manager, because I've done that in the past and I don't think after a derby's the time for it..

But.. I think he's legitimately an interesting example... and almost an inspiration.. In that if you know how to conduct yourself.. And if you say the things that people listening want to hear. People will defend a lot of your foibles and will almost ignore bad results for an incredible amount of time.

The way Conte spoke and acted meant that he had to be close to perfect in terms of results.

It’s called bullshit baffles brains.
 
And just remember, this performance tonight came off the back of being taken to ET by tamworth, and we were a decent connection away from being knocked out in injury time.

I mean, it's quite surreal the guy is still in the job. I just don't understand what the board are doing. The signs were there October 2023. I said he should have been sacked in the summer, then every month since then, but no.

Serious question marks have to be asked of the club and how they have let Ange get away with this for so long and they've kept faith. The patient thing to do? Or pure incompetence? Pretty obvious which one it is.
 
Wouldn't say that's throwing players under the bus, the reality was that we were shit.

We have a lot of young players but Biss, Maddison, Son, Solanke, Kulu, Porro are all senior players and they were all shit.
Speaking personally, when we’re on a league run as dire as this, the only thing I want to hear from the manager is, ‘This is on me—I’ll fix it.’ Everyone can see the performances aren’t up to scratch, so when he shifts the narrative to players not executing his instructions, it feels like a subtle deflection.

But here’s the rub: what if the players are following orders, and it’s the system itself that’s flawed? 5 points from 27 is it now? I honestly think Ange might do better to focus on inspiring the players instead imo.

At the end of the day, though, actions speak louder than words, and the results are doing all the talking right now. Whether he owns it or not, the trajectory we’re on doesn’t lie. I don’t want us to lose another manager, and I’d love nothing more than to see him turn things around. But if I were a betting man, I wouldn’t put a penny on it mate.
 
These players proved (what we already knew) on Sunday they have no fight in them or a desire to mix it. We get dragged into a relegation battle we won’t come out of it well.
This is what worries me. We probably won't get properly dragged in but it's not a zero chance, and if we do get dragged in our players seem to have no heart, no confidence and no self belief.

As much as Werner gets it a lot on here his confidence is non existent, but then who can you say is playing with confidence? Given the way Ange publicly threw him under the bus I doubt hes bothered trying to help him build it up either.

How can anyone pull on the Lilywhite (ok the fucking awful blue Pyjamas) in an NLD and play like terrified school kids? Lamela would NEVER.

Anyway if we do get dragged into a fight it won't be pretty (not that it's pretty now)
 
Regardless of what I or anyone thinks of him in terms of coaching calibre... Listening to him speak after tonights game is further proof of one thing..


Being manager of Tottenham Hotspur is a fucking brutal job. He sounds beaten down. They all do in the end.
 
Speaking personally, when we’re on a league run as dire as this, the only thing I want to hear from the manager is, ‘This is on me—I’ll fix it.’ Everyone can see the performances aren’t up to scratch, so when he shifts the narrative to players not executing his instructions, it feels like a subtle deflection.

But here’s the rub: what if the players are following orders, and it’s the system itself that’s flawed? 5 points from 27 is it now? I honestly think Ange might do better to focus on inspiring the players instead imo.

At the end of the day, though, actions speak louder than words, and the results are doing all the talking right now. Whether he owns it or not, the trajectory we’re on doesn’t lie. I don’t want us to lose another manager, and I’d love nothing more than to see him turn things around. But if I were a betting man, I wouldn’t put a penny on it mate.

Right I hear all this but throwing players under the bus is stretching it, he actually did say it's also on him to fix.
 
Fuck that's not a good interview.

Hasn't thrown any players under the bus and he's taken the responsibility but he looks and sounds beaten.
Like I just said briefly to Shady “the only thing I want to hear from the manager is, ‘This is on me—I’ll fix it.’ Everyone can see the performances aren’t up to scratch, so when he shifts the narrative to players not executing his instructions, it feels like a subtle deflection.

But here’s the rub: what if the players are following orders, and it’s the system itself that’s flawed? 5 points from 27 is it now? I honestly think Ange might do better to focus on inspiring the players instead imo.”

That’s kind of where my head is right now but I do agree with you, he looks like he knows it’s over.
 
theres a lack of leadership 100% which is why giving son ther armband was pathetic, that should of at least gone to someone who has to have a shave every now and then.

the players are drained mate, its been a year of shit results. the idiot has them up so high that they cant lose the ball or they know they are doing intense sprints back every single time. the tactics are a dream to play against not for.
I think you can say the players are drained if they're still trying to play the managers 'tactics', I don't think we leave one drained today, we looked clueless. That's worse to me than anything else. We don't have a plan, we don't play patterns, we don't play a certain way, we look clueless, uncoached. As I said earlier or in a other thread, as bad as we were under Mourinho or conté, we looked dangerous on the counter. With Ange we don't even counter. It shows how fucking good Kane is. And fuck Daniel Levy.
 
Levy has never, ever had a good sense of what's actually happening on the pitch. Those embarrassing moments in the Amazon series when he tried to chat to Mourinho about the football should have made that clear.

The guy is a glorified real-estate state developer. He's in this game for money, because him and Joe Lewis realised the Prem was an easy way to get rich 20 years ago. And fair play to him, it's made him a billionaire.

But that's as far as his insight on the game goes. This is the same idiot that lurched from Poch to Mourinho to Nuno. I am utterly convinced if he were on this forum he'd be one of those idiots everyone has on ignore cos their takes on the game are so terrible.

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