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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
I don’t disagree Goat, just saying that I can’t see it happening unless Leicester beat us, which I think is a possible outcome, it’s basically what Vardy lives for.

The club knows that league wise (and let’s be honest cup wise) this season is a write off. While not impossible it would be unlikely to be relegated, but they’d really need to win games against Leicester and Ipswich to safeguard them from it.
I just can’t see them acting on it unless they lose to Leicester. It would force their hand in appointing either a care taker or spend serious money to try and get their first choice replacement. Based on the last few managerial searches this has been as painful as pulling teeth, which also didn’t really paint them in a very favourable light. The board must be aware of this, and while our current predicament is a joke they’ve still got Ange as a scapegoat to absorb the bulk of the heat.

Fuck. I forgot about Vardy.

We're doomed
 
I think he won’t be sacked simply because the club has not prepared for his successor. Haven’t we spent like half a year before deciding to hire Postecoglou? I don’t think much has changed, especially with the lack of "obvious" candidate and possibly those names on the shortlist wouldn’t want to join this fucking mess.
 
I think he won’t be sacked simply because the club has not prepared for his successor. Haven’t we spent like half a year before deciding to hire Postecoglou? I wouldn’t expect much has changed, especially with the lack of "obvious" candidate like when we hired Conte or Mourinho (Levy’s teenage years wet dream) and rumours that the likes of Iraola wouldn’t join this shit fest, at least mid-season.
I think this is the issue.

I wouldn't be surprised if the club has already put feelers out and got an underwhelming response.
 
I think he won’t be sacked simply because the club has not prepared for his successor. Haven’t we spent like half a year before deciding to hire Postecoglou? I wouldn’t expect much has changed, especially with the lack of "obvious" candidate like when we hired Conte or Mourinho (Levy’s teenage years wet dream) and rumours that the likes of Iraola wouldn’t join this shit fest, at least mid-season.

Honestly, I think Mason as a very temporary measure would be ok! Basically we just need to survive relegation. That is the ONLY ambition we should now have for the remainder of this bastard season.

I don't give a fuck that we're still in 3 cups - we won't be for much longer.
 
You have turned but it’s nothing like when it went toxic with Conte or Jose, or Nuno. Not even close. Maybe if that Everton game was at home it would have been but if we win vs Leicester you know the stadium will be singing the Ange song like they were in the Liverpool game.

I give Ali Gold stick but this is pretty much the perfect summary of our situation:


View: https://x.com/alasdairgold/status/1881254154896810427?s=46&t=fbqxNuG9CT4qTaiJx8mBjg

More fans are turning but he somehow hasn’t lost the majority yet. The Spurs fans I know irl aren’t Ange Out yet

Trust me that Everton game was a massive watershed moment. It's not the margin of loss, none of our fans give a solid gold fuck about how narrow all our losses have been despite that being trotted out like its some sort of defence, we're just really fed up with losing fucking games now and it's not hard to see that a new manager could get more out of this squad even with all the injuries than this fucking clown.
 
What I don't get with the AngeIn crowd is that they seem to prefer Ange over anyone. If we simply replaced him today, it could not get any worse. Especially if the replacement was only until the end of the season.

We could still end the season with some dignity. Showing that we don't accept clown football would be something. And listening to the fanbase who actually care about the competitive aspect of football should be minimum.

You must be gone when you're 15th with a squad like this after 24 games.

And the injuries are his own doing. Apparently he warned the medical team on his arrival that there would be many hamstring injuries.

There are good coaches in the championship. Give one of them a chance. They've earned it much more. I'm sure all of them would also have won the league with Celtic. They can't all play boring football.

You don't want to end with Sean Dyche as a caretaker.

Another red flag. How can we have appointed a manger who basically admits that, my way of playing and training produces injuries?

If we just think about that for a minute, it is absolutely insane that we would find that acceptable. I mean, I’m sure he didn’t admit it during the interview, if he did interview or course. He’s well in with the Base agency and the guy who runs it and from where we seem to buy the majority of our players from. He probably didn’t even need to interview for the job it was all just handed to him. We were desperate again for someone at that point.
 
And who can blame 'em, if so. Our club is the graveyard of careers.
Exactly.

What benefit does any manager have coming to manage Tottenham besides a wage increase and a shiny NFL stadium?

They only need to look at the recent history of hiring and firing, that's enough to put anyone off. Add to that the lack of backing, the abuse from a section of the fan base and having players constantly down tools when they don't like something.

We're a shit show, and Harry Kane was the only reason we stayed as competitive as we did.
 
Trust me that Everton game was a massive watershed moment. It's not the margin of loss, none of our fans give a solid gold fuck about how narrow all our losses have been despite that being trotted out like its some sort of defence, we're just really fed up with losing fucking games now and it's not hard to see that a new manager could get more out of this squad even with all the injuries than this fucking clown.

I’ll be interested to see what the stadium is like for the Leicester game if he’s still here.

We win that game, I’m willing to bet we still hear that Ange song. Which is admittedly mind-blowing and an interesting study into human psychology. Even Poch got less patience than this.
 
Honestly, I think Mason as a very temporary measure would be ok! Basically we just need to survive relegation. That is the ONLY ambition we should now have for the remainder of this bastard season.

I don't give a fuck that we're still in 3 cups - we won't be for much longer.
I think Mason should fuck off and get some real managerial experience on his own. The fact that he sits his arse at the club as an Assistant Manager or coach or whatever the fuck, sounds like he’s got no ambition to become his own man.
 
It's very unlike Levy - Ange has definitely been given a lot more leeway with bad results than his predecessors.

Levy has usually pulled the trigger way before now so maybe he's hoping that with a few injured players back, something will happen.

Either that or we have no one lined up and he feels our position is too precarious to have someone like Mason take the reigns for nearly half the season that's left.

Or he's seen how it's panned out at Man U and is worried it will repeat itself here.

What's going on at United actually makes our situation seen slightly less bad. Only slightly.

Us and them have completely stank the place out and it's just too easy and simplistic to blame the respective owners, outside of the managerial appointments.

Both clubs will most probably avoid relegation by default, but either managers or players (or both) are showing they are not up to the challenge if playing for such big clubs.

I also think the gap between the very very best players has greatly reduced, as in there are very few top players, which equates to needing the very best coaches and riding waves of confidence read Forest)
 
Oh yeah what a huge failure Poch was. And Redknapp, and Jol. All those failed managers eh.

If memory serves me correctly they all got fired by Levy after not winning anything.

Poch was truly incredible with us, but I thought it was universally recognised by all Spurs fans that he ultimately failed (and when he went he needed to go!) because Levy did not invest any money in the 1st team for 2-3 years, and the squad aged, went very stale, and lost all momentum.

Redknapp could have had a shot at the league in January but Levy bought him Saha and Nelson when we needed reinforcements, and then he shot himself in the foot by chasing the England job and getting accused of taking bungs.

I won't comment on Jol as we were a much smaller club them in terms of revenue and were unable to compete with the 'Sky 4' at the time, and could not have been expected to win anything.
 
Another red flag. How can we have appointed a manger who basically admits that, my way of playing and training produces injuries?

If we just think about that for a minute, it is absolutely insane that we would find that acceptable. I mean, I’m sure he didn’t admit it during the interview, if he did interview or course. He’s well in with the Base agency and the guy who runs it and from where we seem to buy the majority of our players from. He probably didn’t even need to interview for the job it was all just handed to him. We were desperate again for someone at that point.
I swear this has been replied to you before mate.

What he said was the intensity required to play this way causes small injuries in the first season then usually the players bodies adapt and the injuries are less the second season. Pretty sure that checks out with injury records at other clubs.

I don’t think it’s Unique to him btw. Iraola plays chaos ball and has 9 injuries even though they have played 9 fewer games already in January.

Intensity wins but it comes with a cost.
 
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