This is Spurs, it would've counted. Dragusin breathed on it.Then it would have been disallowed because you can't just throw the ball into the net without anyone touching it...
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This is Spurs, it would've counted. Dragusin breathed on it.Then it would have been disallowed because you can't just throw the ball into the net without anyone touching it...
They have 2-4 new players coming in as we speak.
Sometimes a new signing can make the existing player better just by being under threat of being dropped.
Yeah, Jose took it too far in the other direction. But there is a lot of sense in the whole Tactical Periodisation method that he and a lot of other managers from Portugal and Spain follow.Jose took it to an extreme though, we had the worst running stats in the league under him.
The simple fact is playing twice a week every week over the winter months - you absolutely do not need to be doing more running In training, that sharpness is going to remain throughout. The problem is, Ange does not train tactics, we have a first hand account of that, so if he removes the running - what are they actually going to do in training? - Werner could do with some shooting practice and Dragusin could learn to pass the ball forwards, but other than that
That's a seperate issue. Clearly we have decided to change things but pretending the players were sharing one physio and the medical team under resourced is speculative junk. And Conte was allowed to bring a large team. It was Ange chose to come in with zero back room, which shows how fucking clueless the bloke is. NO serious head coach behaves this wayIf we have the best then why are four medical positions advertised mid season, either some have been made scapegoats , positions were never filled or they were not the best and we are now seeking the best?
Facilities mat be best but background team certainly are not. Jedenik just retired so had no experience. If Mason wanted to be a first class coach he should have left the comfort of the nest and cut his teeth in a lower league. Di we have a set piece coach, since Vio left when Conte did, looking at how we defend corners I very much doubt it.
And let us go down?Just let Ange see the season out. Judge him on the back end of the season where hopefully the squad is fully fit and we can see what the results are like when he has VDV, Romero, Udogie and co back.
If the team is still looking lacklustre at that point, then make the change over the summer.
Personally I don't hold out much hope for him. I've really not seen much tactical nouse that gives me the impression he's anything special, but I haven't written him off yet.
He was mostly shit last season from game 11 onwards, and almost entirely shit this one outside of a handful of games.Just let Ange see the season out. Judge him on the back end of the season where hopefully the squad is fully fit and we can see what the results are like when he has VDV, Romero, Udogie and co back.
If the team is still looking lacklustre at that point, then make the change over the summer.
Personally I don't hold out much hope for him. I've really not seen much tactical nouse that gives me the impression he's anything special, but I haven't written him off yet.
We won just 9 league games out of 35 in all of 2024. Many of these games with close to our first choice 11. Do not be fooled.Just let Ange see the season out. Judge him on the back end of the season where hopefully the squad is fully fit and we can see what the results are like when he has VDV, Romero, Udogie and co back.
If the team is still looking lacklustre at that point, then make the change over the summer.
Personally I don't hold out much hope for him. I've really not seen much tactical nouse that gives me the impression he's anything special, but I haven't written him off yet.
And let us go down?
Literally, you would watch us slip into the bottom 3 then stay there, and keep this opinion?
It's bloody terrifying.We could go down and some would still want him in - who would be better at getting us out of the champ? We need to back him in the summer window and buy that striker from Carlisle? He will deliver the Johnston’s screwfit milk Vase this season.
Then when we finish 12th in the champ it will be “are you not entertained”
I can see it now. Combine that with the brutal cost cutting ENIC would implement. And let's not forget the Championship is a more competitive league than any of Scotland, Australia and Japan. Relegation really must be avoided.We could go down and some would still want him in - who would be better at getting us out of the champ? We need to back him in the summer window and buy that striker from Carlisle? He will deliver the Johnston’s screwfit milk Vase this season.
Then when we finish 12th in the champ it will be “are you not entertained”
And “we’d be top 5 but injuries”.We could go down and some would still want him in - who would be better at getting us out of the champ? We need to back him in the summer window and buy that striker from Carlisle? He will deliver the Johnston’s screwfit milk Vase this season.
Then when we finish 12th in the champ it will be “are you not entertained”
Great postI keep reading people saying things like “let him see the season out and we’ll see how next season is with all our players back”
….if we finish 12th-17th, do people not realise that these players might not be our players anymore?
And where do you think we’re shopping? Levy didn’t even follow up making the champions league final by buying better players to get us over the line, why is he going to suddenly sign world beaters if we avoid relegation?
Honestly do some people not see how far we’ve regressed? We have absolutely plummeted under this manger, through the floor, into the basement and on, we’re closer to Mordor than we are Europe.
If we finish in a crap position as is hugely likely, Romero likely goes, and teams from various countries will be circling (whether you rate the players or not) around VDV, Porro, Udogie, Spence, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Kulu, probably even Solanke… now of course I’m not saying they all go at once, but if a few of them feel they’re good enough for Europe they may well, and then what faith have you got in Levy to replace them well?
That’s before you even hand them over to our pub manager for his third season, where we will no doubt have another ‘unprecendented’ injury crisis.
It isn’t as simple as just saying let him finish where he does and crack on next year.
Regardless of manager, we need squad depth to compete domestically and in Europe. I was responding to a comment solely blaming our style of play for the injuries.We cant be critical of Ange because it means Levy is absolved?
What kind of logic is that? It's possible to blame both.
I was only talking about teams that look tired and how it hurts them.
This isn't funny because it's true.We could go down and some would still want him in - who would be better at getting us out of the champ? We need to back him in the summer window and buy that striker from Carlisle? He will deliver the Johnston’s screwfit milk Vase this season.
Then when we finish 12th in the champ it will be “are you not entertained”
It seems to play a part in the injuries.Regardless of manager, we need squad depth to compete domestically and in Europe. I was responding to a comment solely blaming our style of play for the injuries.
I keep reading people saying things like “let him see the season out and we’ll see how next season is with all our players back”
….if we finish 12th-17th, do people not realise that these players might not be our players anymore?
And where do you think we’re shopping? Levy didn’t even follow up making the champions league final by buying better players to get us over the line, why is he going to suddenly sign world beaters if we avoid relegation?
Honestly do some people not see how far we’ve regressed? We have absolutely plummeted under this manger, through the floor, into the basement and on, we’re closer to Mordor than we are Europe.
If we finish in a crap position as is hugely likely, Romero likely goes, and teams from various countries will be circling (whether you rate the players or not) around VDV, Porro, Udogie, Spence, Bergvall, Gray, Sarr, Kulu, probably even Solanke… now of course I’m not saying they all go at once, but if a few of them feel they’re good enough for Europe they may well, and then what faith have you got in Levy to replace them well?
That’s before you even hand them over to our pub manager for his third season, where we will no doubt have another ‘unprecendented’ injury crisis.
It isn’t as simple as just saying let him finish where he does and crack on next year.
I understand not wanting to sack him after a 66 points/5th place finish, but they should still have been prepared for the possibility of a mid-season change before a ball was kicked this season. This kind of a total collapse was nearly impossible to envision, but alarm bells were still ringing to a considerable degree about Ange's long-term suitability for the job. 1 point from 5 matches after that Chelsea match, 4 match losing streak near the end of the season, struggles in breaking down low blocks and relying on last minute goals and comebacks to win against inferior teams on many occasions. These cannot simply be brushed away as hindsight.
United, despite him having a strong first season and winning a cup in his second season as well, pulled the plug on Ten Hag after 9 league matches, sitting with 11 points. We had 13 from our first 9. In a spell where we gave away a 2 goal lead against Brighton, and dropped 5 points against Leicester and Palace. Two weeks later, on Nov 10, we lost to another relegation fodder Ipswich at home. If they actually had a replacement plan ready, this would have been a great time to pull the plug on him. Everything to play for in the league, no injury excuse or any other mitigating factors in sight. Instead they put all their eggs in Ange basket, an injury crisis started appearing on the horizon, and the rest is history.
Even if they no longer believe in him, which might not even be the case by the way, we are in purgatory now. Probably too late in the context of the season to replace him with a permanent long-term successor, but also too early to throw the towel by going with Mason. If they ever plan on taking that route again that is.
Between him, Mason, and a rushed appointment from a limited number of available candidates, I can't see an easy way out. Pick your poison.
things like this make you realise how many idiots are out there. quite scary.And let us go down?
Literally, you would watch us slip into the bottom 3 then stay there, and keep this opinion?