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Management Ange Postecoglou

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Still not enough imo. Europa league and another one hes earned another season.
The idea that we would go up to Anfield and make the 1-0 lead stick, then win a Wembley final battle of the "haven't won a trophy since" financial powers (thereby qualifying for Europe, incidentally), and then sack the manager?

What world are you people living in? What club have you been supporting all these years?
 
The idea that we would go up to Anfield and make the 1-0 lead stick, then win a Wembley final battle of the "haven't won a trophy since" financial powers (thereby qualifying for Europe, incidentally), and then sack the manager?

What world are you people living in? What club have you been supporting all these years?

Yeah it’s called the league cup is a C tier trophy and in no way would make up for being 15th in the league.

What world are YOU living in? Spurs have been a consistent top 4/6 side for years. Winning a fucking league cup wouldn’t excuse our worst league season in a millennia.

The league is your bread and butter. MAYBE an FA cup or EL saves a manager. A league cup though? Pushing it to say the least.
 
I’m ok with it. It’s a results business and he hasn’t got them yet. But what happens if he wins a couple of trophies, and steadies the ship somewhat to finish say top 8 in the league?


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Including under Ange.

All the while a trophy hex has been toxifying everything.

The Mickey Mouse Milk Cup is a big fucking deal, I'm sorry if that offends you.


Erm yes, and then very much not .. have you seen our league position lately? We’re on course for by far the worst league finish in an absolute age. Ange’s PPG over the last year and a half is abysmally bad.

It’s really not a big deal. It’s an afterthought for most teams. If you get to a quarter/semi you get a bit excited. It’s the FA cups less attractive brother. I’d love to win a trophy, any trophy, but a league cup wouldn’t be enough to justify how absolutely rubbish supporting this team has been on a weekly basis.

The only way Ange’s job is saved is if we win a EL or FA cup. The league cup wouldn’t be enough on its own. We’d need a serious upturn in league form to go with it. Otherwise it would just look like a slapdash ten Haag job rather than sticking with him because you’re actually making progress.

The club will look at the likes of Iraola in the summer - if they’re gettable then barring a miracle Ange is gone. No club tolerates a league campaign this dismal if good options are available.

FYI - I think it’s pointless anyway. If we escape from Anfield it’ll be a miracle, let alone beating Newcastle (a better team) in a final. We probably have a better shot at the EL where teams are generally weaker.
 
The fact that this is true
FYI - I think it’s pointless anyway. If we escape from Anfield it’ll be a miracle, let alone beating Newcastle (a better team) in a final. We probably have a better shot at the EL where teams are generally weaker.

Is the reason this isn't true.
The only way Ange’s job is saved is if we win a EL or FA cup. The league cup wouldn’t be enough on its own.

This is not a discussion of the grand cosmic value of the Carabao Cup in a vacuum. This is the specific matter of the trophy drought that is tearing this club to pieces being broken after running through City, United, Liverpool and Newcastle on the trot.

That would be an extraordinary accomplishment to live long in the proud history of this great club, and Andoni Iraola would have to be clinically insane to take a job that would sack a manager having accomplished it within Daniel Levy's straightjacket.

It's written on the fucking wall, mate
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Erm yes, and then very much not .. have you seen our league position lately? We’re on course for by far the worst league finish in an absolute age. Ange’s PPG over the last year and a half is abysmally bad.

It’s really not a big deal. It’s an afterthought for most teams. If you get to a quarter/semi you get a bit excited. It’s the FA cups less attractive brother. I’d love to win a trophy, any trophy, but a league cup wouldn’t be enough to justify how absolutely rubbish supporting this team has been on a weekly basis.

The only way Ange’s job is saved is if we win a EL or FA cup. The league cup wouldn’t be enough on its own. We’d need a serious upturn in league form to go with it. Otherwise it would just look like a slapdash ten Haag job rather than sticking with him because you’re actually making progress.

The club will look at the likes of Iraola in the summer - if they’re gettable then barring a miracle Ange is gone. No club tolerates a league campaign this dismal if good options are available.

FYI - I think it’s pointless anyway. If we escape from Anfield it’ll be a miracle, let alone beating Newcastle (a better team) in a final. We probably have a better shot at the EL where teams are generally weaker.
The fact that this is true


Is the reason this isn't true.


This is not a discussion of the grand cosmic value of the Carabao Cup in a vacuum. This is the specific matter of the trophy drought that is tearing this club to pieces being broken after running through City, United, Liverpool and Newcastle on the trot.

That would be an extraordinary accomplishment to live long in the proud history of this great club, and Andoni Iraola would have to be clinically insane to take a job that would sack a manager having accomplished it within Daniel Levy's straightjacket.

It's written on the fucking wall, mate
BIjp2DUCUAE8KQJ.jpg


FWIW - I think you're both right.

Not sure that helps but whatever :D
 
Erm yes, and then very much not .. have you seen our league position lately? We’re on course for by far the worst league finish in an absolute age. Ange’s PPG over the last year and a half is abysmally bad.

It’s really not a big deal. It’s an afterthought for most teams. If you get to a quarter/semi you get a bit excited. It’s the FA cups less attractive brother. I’d love to win a trophy, any trophy, but a league cup wouldn’t be enough to justify how absolutely rubbish supporting this team has been on a weekly basis.

The only way Ange’s job is saved is if we win a EL or FA cup. The league cup wouldn’t be enough on its own. We’d need a serious upturn in league form to go with it. Otherwise it would just look like a slapdash ten Haag job rather than sticking with him because you’re actually making progress.

The club will look at the likes of Iraola in the summer - if they’re gettable then barring a miracle Ange is gone. No club tolerates a league campaign this dismal if good options are available.

FYI - I think it’s pointless anyway. If we escape from Anfield it’ll be a miracle, let alone beating Newcastle (a better team) in a final. We probably have a better shot at the EL where teams are generally weaker.

This is not the narrative most fans have been pushing whilst we were finishing top 6 and not winning things.

Non stop trophy cabinet jokes... winning trophies is one of the biggest sticking points have win our owners..

Teams have shit seasons..... they can come back from that and no one really cares.

When we were unbeaten at the start of the league last year fans were absolutely fuming at how we went out the cup to Fulham and I've also seen you say how shit it was we did as well as loding to city.

You seemed pretty passionate about that if I remember correctly. Why?
 
Well....

Vs Coventry we played Dragusin Davies and Gray in defence..... rested other MF and Forwards too.

Vs Quarabag we started Gray Dragusin VDV and Davies in DF

Vs Fevancharos we started Gray Romero Davies and Porro.... Romero only playing cos of Drag Red Card

Are you telling me that isn't some rotation in DF?

We're you expecting us to rotate in the prem?

Injuries meant we could rotate less.

To say Ange wasnt rotating in the cups is disingenuous....plenty to be pissed off about without making things up
Yes he has a bit but did he start Spence v cov? No. He only came on when destiny got injured. Add in that Spence and reg arnt even in the EL squad so cannot rotate much there with FBs.
 
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