• The Fighting Cock is a forum for fans of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club. Here you can discuss Spurs latest matches, our squad, tactics and any transfer news surrounding the club. Registration gives you access to all our forums (including 'Off Topic' discussion) and removes most of the adverts (you can remove them all via an account upgrade). You're here now, you might as well...

    Get involved!

Manager Ange Postecoglou

Latest Spurs videos from Sky Sports

Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
When you actually look at our stats under him, including from last season. It's actually shocking. We've taken 30 points from our last 30 PL games.

It's actually mental how he is still here. Him talking about us being in a better position now than we were when he came in. Haha the audacity of him.

I can only imagine the club are paralysed because they don't know what to do if they sacked him. Which is mental because the signs that Ange was a charlatan last year. Basically from the Chelsea game, some of us saw a fraud as early as that.

Yet the club have just ticked along doing nothing.
 
spids said:
Nah, I think he realises that, given the injuries we've had, we'd be better off finishing 17th and wining the EL than finishing anywhere between 2nd and 16th. And that he is confident we will climb the table once the 10 first team players who have been unavailable recently are back in the team.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We won't get anywhere near the final of that.
Nowhere near it.

1 Lazio - W7 D1 - 4th in Serie A
2 Frankfurt - W5 D1 - 3rd in Bundesliga
3 Bilbao - W5 D1 - 4th in La Liga
4 Man U - W4 D3
5 Lyon W4 D2 6th in France
6 Spurs W4 D2 - relegation fodder shite

Selection of teams below us -
Galatasary - absolutely fucking battered us. Should have been 5 or 6 nil.
Olympiacos - top in Greece
Rangers - have actual fans that help the team
Ajax - 2nd in Netherlands
Roma - already played us off the pitch with tinkerman.

We don't stand a chance of winning it.
And the longer we stay in it, the worse out league form will get. Well, it just flatlines at dead.
 
Phomesy said:
Not sure if either of you have noticed but Solanke is out for 6 weeks; Brennan probably another 3-4; Richarlison already has a groin issue after playing 45 minutes; Odobert, Werner and Maddison all injured.

So yes we do need to shore up at the back and that will be helped by Cuti and VDV returning but whoever our caretaker manager is will find it difficult to score goals with no attackers available.

We need a forward as a matter of urgency.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
But if we lack in attack, we could make up for it by tightening in defence. We're playing all out, every game. Everyone knows the patterns by now. We see the same every game. Sometimes it works, such as if we play the bottom team Southampton who we spanked 5-0. But it doesn't work against the stronger sides. Even lower ranked teams are enough tactically astute to take advantage of our vulnerabilities.

This system isn't working. At least I can respect Ange for being up-front about it. This is what you get. Credit to him for his honesty and lack of pretension. He's probably a pretty good guy under a lot of pressure. But what we get isn't enough. We'll never know exactly who is to blame and what is going on behind the scenes. Does it really matter now? It's a damn urgency.

I'd find a caretaker for the league but give Ange the League cup. It's only two games left and they are months apart. He gets his chance to win something in the second year, and he appears to be a decent cup manager given his wins against City and Man U. But for the league he's an absolute disaster.
 
Brian Fantana said:
MOTD2 post match analysis is great. A perfect example of how he has hung a player, this time Bentancur, out to dry with his tactics. He is basically a one man midfield as the other two are so far up the pitch and he cant cover the ground in time back and forth across the pitch time and again.

Honestly, he is just so bad of a manager. Something else about how we are set up is highlighted time and again. And if the BBC can do it you can bet every PL club with all their coaching staff and analysists can do too. Hence why everyone keeps beating us!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I said about 15 minutes in to the game yesterday "Sarr and Bergvall keep trying to make runs through the gaps leaving Bentancur as the only CDM"
And "that will probably leave Davies to chase after Vardy"
If I can see this fucking shite, why can't he???
He's literally a fake football coach. He's managed to wing it for nearly 30 years in nothing leagues. Getting battered in the CL when at Celtic but having people say "oh but didn't they play well"
Fucking who cares when you get ripped apart by a COACHED football team?

This is madness.
If we don't sack him we don't sack him. But any support for him from people proclaiming to be Spurs fans has to end. Surely?
 
Matt1882 said:
I said about 15 minutes in to the game yesterday "Sarr and Bergvall keep trying to make runs through the gaps leaving Bentancur as the only CDM"
And "that will probably leave Davies to chase after Vardy"
If I can see this fucking shite, why can't he???
He's literally a fake football coach. He's managed to wing it for nearly 30 years in nothing leagues. Getting battered in the CL when at Celtic but having people say "oh but didn't they play well"
Fucking who cares when you get ripped apart by a COACHED football team?

This is madness.
If we don't sack him we don't sack him. But any support for him from people proclaiming to be Spurs fans has to end. Surely?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Any decent manager who prepares properly for games against us will beat us while he is in charge. Honestly, it is as clear as day.
 
Brian Fantana said:
MOTD2 post match analysis is great. A perfect example of how he has hung a player, this time Bentancur, out to dry with his tactics. He is basically a one man midfield as the other two are so far up the pitch and he cant cover the ground in time back and forth across the pitch time and again.

Honestly, he is just so bad of a manager. Something else about how we are set up is highlighted time and again. And if the BBC can do it you can bet every PL club with all their coaching staff and analysists can do too. Hence why everyone keeps beating us!
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And the best part about this is, doing fucking what?

This calamity chaosball nonsense would arguably be worth it if the solid foundation that you were entirely neglecting to build were absent in favour of a bunch of players up the other end causing a headache for the opposition, but they aren't...

As Matt1882 Matt1882 has pointed out repeatedly, we're outnumbered everywhere on the pitch.

Where the hell are our players? Not in defence that's for sure, midfield? Nope, nothing to be seen there, must be in attack then? Nope, fuck all going on up there either...

Seriously, only position that I'm confident that we are fully manned in is Keeper, and that poor c**t will always be on a hiding to nothing no matter who it is and what form they're in. I'm sure it won't be long before Ange has him inverting and/or pressing.
 
Brian Fantana said:
Any decent manager who prepares properly for games against us will beat us while he is in charge. Honestly, it is as clear as day.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'll go out on a limb, ahem, here and say that I think Ange will win only more game as manager of Tottenham. The game this Thursday vs Effinburg. We will win narrowly by one goal, holding on for dear life. We will lose or at best draw every other game under him.
 
dudu said:
but come home for what - i don't think he has progressed as a manager at all.... Ange finished above him last season..
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
You don’t ‘progress’ as a manager. Once you’ve hit the big time, you are what you are and ‘progression’ is really ‘regeneration’ of the team and getting that combination of excellent players and a little bit of luck which helps you forge a team.

That’s why Ange won’t progress. His football is silly and naive and requires a planetary alignment of certain factors to occasionally shine.

Poch would work very well with this squad. People might not want him, due to different reasons, but he’s miles fucking better than Ange.
 
Herclueless said:
And the best part about this is, doing fucking what?

This calamity chaosball nonsense would arguably be worth it if the solid foundation that you were entirely neglecting to build were absent in favour of a bunch of players up the other end causing a headache for the opposition, but they aren't...

As Matt1882 Matt1882 has pointed out repeatedly, we're outnumbered everywhere on the pitch.

Where the hell are our players? Not in defence that's for sure, midfield? Nope, nothing to be seen there, must be in attack then? Nope, fuck all going on up there either...

Seriously, only position that I'm confident that we are fully manned in is Keeper, and that poor c**t will always be on a hiding to nothing no matter who it is and what form they're in. I'm sure it won't be long before Ange has him inverting and/or pressing.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Inverted GK!
 
Cranston said:
You don’t ‘progress’ as a manager. Once you’ve hit the big time, you are what you are and ‘progression’ is really ‘regeneration’ of the team and getting that combination of excellent players and a little bit of luck which helps you forge a team.

That’s why Ange won’t progress. His football is silly and naive and requires a planetary alignment of certain factors to occasionally shine.

Poch would work very well with this squad. People might not want him, due to different reasons, but he’s miles fucking better than Ange.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'd happily take Poch.
 
Cranston said:
You don’t ‘progress’ as a manager. Once you’ve hit the big time, you are what you are and ‘progression’ is really ‘regeneration’ of the team and getting that combination of excellent players and a little bit of luck which helps you forge a team.

That’s why Ange won’t progress. His football is silly and naive and requires a planetary alignment of certain factors to occasionally shine.

Poch would work very well with this squad. People might not want him, due to different reasons, but he’s miles fucking better than Ange.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I would imagine that Mrs Poch would be miles better!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top