I can’t believe it’s not butter
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Demented football?
What exactly is Ange asking of his players that Klopp/Slot aren't at Liverpool?
When Romero and VDV were fit, we dominated games with 70+% of the ball. We dictated the pass of the game and never chased it.
He's definitely not butter, but he's buttered someone up to still be in the job
Slot doesn't allow his midfield three to go rambling around the pitch and leave the entire centre wide open. He doesn't tell his team to forget about being compact and let the full backs run 40 yards higher than the CBs without a midfielder dropping off to cover. He doesn't try to build out from the back with just the GK and two CBs while everyone else rushes forwards and hides behind opposing players.
It's comically stupid football that can never deliver consistent results. The clean sheet record since he took over is appalling and tells you everything you need to know. A team with no defensive acumen at all is not going to get anywhere.
What the Tamworth winger did to Porro had nothing to do with Ange's tactics.
Porro cannot defend to Premier League standard.
Its interesting watching united fans go through the same process with Amorim. He has some seriously thick plot armour from the fans, but is another ego driven system manager that has no plan B. When his system doesnt work, he flogs the payers and humiliates them rather than adapting.
The united fans think Amorim has all the answers. Even though he came from a piss poor farmer league, his team lost last night 3-0 to Borussia Dortmund in a CL play off. Hardly European pedigree.
What Amorim and Ange both share is that they have yet to be tested at the top level and they have yet to adapt to a situation where their beloved system doesnt work.
You have to have experience to manage a top club IMO. Very few people can instantly make the leap. For every Mourinho there are countless Ange's and Rueben's that get eaten alive in a more competitive league.
The united fans think Amorim has all the answers. Even though he came from a piss poor farmer league, his team lost last night 3-0 to Borussia Dortmund in a CL play off. Hardly European pedigree.
What Amorim and Ange both share is that they have yet to be tested at the top level and they have yet to adapt to a situation where their beloved system doesnt work.
You have to have experience to manage a top club IMO. Very few people can instantly make the leap. For every Mourinho there are countless Ange's and Rueben's that get eaten alive in a more competitive league.
Only the first 3 games of the season Where we W1 D1 L1 so what is the point of the possession
I also think he enjoys butter. Very much.
Were you so quick and constantly to defend AVB, Mourinho, Nono and Conte as you are Ange?
As they were all better managers by far
Disagree about Amorim.
Compare his win percentage at Sporting to Marco Silva's.
Silva has proved himself to be a capable Premier League manager but Amorim's win percentage at the same club is superior and impressive.
Amorim will get results at United, in my opinion, and it is why Spurs need to get our act together quick.
We will be fishing in the same ponds for players.
I was rewatching some old tifo videos during lunch. And it hit me that Ange's football is like a more primite version of Sarriball.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWJkzjouJgk
Like, a way more primitive unstructured version of the football that Sarri made work at Napoli and Lazio.
Well, we only got half of Mourinho. He didn't bring his back rooms staff that had followed him throughout his success. He had a poor squad, and of course terrible luck with injuries. He lost respect for the club and players desire to win.
Conte was unwell and lost 2 of his best friends. He was distracted and not interested in the Spurs project.
I liked AVB, but again, fucked over by levy with shite players and injuries. Still remember him having to play Capoue at Centre back. Yikes.
The root cause is not the coach. We typically sign low quality players and our medical capabilities are poor. The coaches are asked to do an impossible job, and the academy produces very little talent.
United have shown, it doesn't matter who the coach is, if the club is rotten, you can't stop the stink.
To piggyback off of my previous post.
It sent me down a Sarriball rabbit hole. And it really does look like the more complete and functional version of the football that Ange wants to play.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzxK8bdm3wM
It sent me down a Sarriball rabbit hole. And it really does look like the more complete and functional version of the football that Ange wants to play.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzxK8bdm3wM
Not a dig at the original poster as I don’t think he’s doing that here, but I see a lot of people comparing Ange and Amorim as if they’re at the same spot.
Amorim may eventually end up failing (I don’t personally think he will) but he isnt in the same situation as Ange yet. He’s a season and a half behind him. Ange has just had his 4th transfer window, Amorim has had one.
If Amorim is where Ange is at the same point on the timeline then fine, but a few people more widely need to realise that with the time he’s had, and the funds, Ange should be leaving Amorim behind currently… instead, he’s 2 points behind him.
Less good job they are asked to play central midfield!Good job then they are not asked to play as FBs
Could not stand the bloke …. The original travelling salesman
Once the best player in the world at the time left, that was it …. Turgid was the mot de jour
Killed the WHL crowd … was awful
Anyone who disagrees wasn’t going to WHL when he was there
Whoever we get in to replace Ange, can we all make a gentlepersons agreement to not affix 'ball' after their name, you're welcome.
First of all - there is graph about sprinting intensity on the pitch on the ball and off the ball.
Which very clearly indicates that he in fact DOES ask much more than any other coach.
Second of all - last two sentences gives me away the reasoning of sticking up with Ange despite what results show - quite notable naivety. You seem to think that top level sport is about maximum effort and suffering. But in real world, top level sport is about maximum result. You have to get best possible result out of athletes with minimal possible effort. It is all about intricate balance. About recognizing moments when opposition is vulnerable and smother them right there and then. Not about going up 5:0 with first half and then playing some starting players until end of the game just for the sake of it. If you squeeze 100% out of 100% of players in 100% of every game, you get just what we have gotten. Bunch of crippled players performing very poorly. Both - this season and end of last season too. When we only had 1 competition (!) .
That wasn't the question. Were you arguing the case for them to be given time or not?
They were all better managers. They had us performing better, at the higher end of the league despite all the issues you rightly pointed out.
And they were all sacked.
The fact Ange us miles behind any coach we've had in the PL era and hasn't been sacked is absolutely mind boggling.
Levy eventually had to say "fuck it, let's give one more time to shut the fans up"
But why the fuck is it the worst one he's ever employed?
And why are fans digging in supporting him? I've yet to see a single answer that makes any sense. Pointless stats that mean nothing. Hopes and dreams. That's about it.