But (un)fortunely you won’t be here to witness it since you’ll have fucked off to convince the fans of whatever next club who’ll hire this postman that he’s the real shiet.
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(maybe at some point we'll get to 11th)
That's why I feel there is no reason why our players, young players, always dropped to their feet when the final whistle blew after those matches during the busy period. We expanded so much energy unnecessarily running, whether or not we have the ball. There are no structure and plan. Liverpool fitness is so good because they know when they can slow down and when they can raise it to overcome the opponent. We definitely lack that from Ange.
Slot tactics plays to their players strength. The way he uses Salah is the way we need to use Son but Ange is we know is a one trick pony and a fraud.
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Nobody thinks that a club which is mentally soft as this one is and which is undermanned for top 6 aspirations will say that this club would be at the top if Ange were sacked. I have not heard one soul say that this entire season.
The question is about whether Ange belongs in the PL (he certainly doesn't), if he is a positive or negative for our results and league position (certainly a negative), if his style of play can work at this level of competition (no, certainly no with our wages and depth).
But more than anything else, more than ANYTHING else, if Ange were sacked and replaced with any generic PL manager, the team would instantly be more organized, coherent, and achieve better results than what we've had. Generally, would not be an embarrassment that's so easy to beat. No question of that.
Very good point
I don't think anyone said we will be top 4 if Ange leaves. We just want someone competent in this level. Ange as we know is not.
They also score a lot more and have a tactically astute manage not a buffoon who wouldn't know what a decent tactic was if it bit him on the arse
There is no "visionary approach ", his vision if you can call it that is, to push everyone up vacating space in behind leaving us vulnerable.
Time and time again we see, teams having chance after chance against us, it's down to them not taking their chances and pure luck we are not in a worse position.
Games end up like a basketball match end to end and chaotic and frenetic, I can't stomach watching such amateur tactics.
Will be glad to see the back of it and him, worse Tottenham team and manager i have seen in years.
Doesn't matter if we have a fit squad or not, the team is always struggling with games turning into chaos, terrible appointment should have stayed in the amateur league of Scotland.
My personal favourite is „but we only lost alot of games just by one goal.“ Banger of an excuse.
How and in what world does that make sense? What is it supposed to mean?
How and in what world does that make sense? What is it supposed to mean?
TBF to me : I was using the term ironically .
I suspect we’re very much on the same page on this one .
It was obvious that Porro was going to be badly exposed the other night, particularly against Doku. We knew what would happen because time and time again, the same scenario has arisen with frightening regularity. This is why we saw the need for Spence to be played there. Ange’s solution appears to be, however, that he will continue to repeatedly operate in the same way until maybe one day something different may happen. Porro is no defender but doesn’t deserve to shoulder all the blame. The lack of coaching, or no coaching, that allows him to continually hover around the halfway line while his opponent occupies about five acres of space behind him is the major factor. Inevitably, when the opposition find their player in acres of space with a simple ball into that space, our midfield and defence pour back at chaotic Keystone Kop pace so that by the time the pass is made into our goal mouth no one knows quite where they are supposed to be.
At his press conferences or interviews, Ange is never really pressed on matters like this, thus allowing him to deflect on to subjects like injuries, players ages or how great he was in Japan or Australia.
I was surprised then after the City game when, for once, after seeing what has been so obvious to the majority of us all season, he was asked by Jonathan Pearce for MOTD, “Do you think you were a little too open on the right hand side of your defence where Doku was causing problems?”
I thought to myself — at last, Ange is going to finally explain this piece of tactical genius he adopts every game. I waited with bated breath for the pearl of wisdom to emerge. His answer was “Yeah that was coming because we were turning the ball over, I thought Pedro did a really good job but when you turn the ball over like we did in the first half you allow them to hit into those spaces and Doku is a very good winger and causes most teams problems but after that we handed it well.”
So now we have it. No more discussions are needed on why opposition forwards can operate in acres of space every week on our right hand side. As you were.
At his press conferences or interviews, Ange is never really pressed on matters like this, thus allowing him to deflect on to subjects like injuries, players ages or how great he was in Japan or Australia.
I was surprised then after the City game when, for once, after seeing what has been so obvious to the majority of us all season, he was asked by Jonathan Pearce for MOTD, “Do you think you were a little too open on the right hand side of your defence where Doku was causing problems?”
I thought to myself — at last, Ange is going to finally explain this piece of tactical genius he adopts every game. I waited with bated breath for the pearl of wisdom to emerge. His answer was “Yeah that was coming because we were turning the ball over, I thought Pedro did a really good job but when you turn the ball over like we did in the first half you allow them to hit into those spaces and Doku is a very good winger and causes most teams problems but after that we handed it well.”
So now we have it. No more discussions are needed on why opposition forwards can operate in acres of space every week on our right hand side. As you were.
Porro being all over the place defensively seems to be the consensus here, but at this point I'm inclined to blame our next-man-up, gung ho pressing for most of the individual errors. Because even our defensively more astute players such as Danso and Spence are not immune to ending up in weird spots on the pitch while defending. The former was halfway into City's half in the buildup of their goal for example, while the latter was nowhere to be found in the first minute against Ipswich when they were about to score from his side.
Son is the initial domino that falls here, he leaves the left side open by being too ambitious with his effort. This'll be relevant shortly
Bergvall is the next man up, he rotates to the left to pick up Son's assignment. Kulusevski follows Bergvall to possibly provide cover for him. Udogie does likewise to pick up the next pass, which drags Bentancur away from the centre towards the left. But notice how this opens the centre of the pitch. Ipswich player right next to the ref is open already. He can potentially be the one that'll allow them to carry the ball forward if/when they beat this press.
There's already a simple pass to the aforementioned player here, and there's nobody around him that can potentially stop him from carrying the ball forward. Player on the ball misses this passing opportunity by the way.
There's the second opportunity for the said pass, and the player on the ball this time takes it.
As can be expected, the receiver has no problem getting the ball and bursting forward. There's nobody in the close vicinity that can cause him any sort of problem, Johnson's insignificant last second attempt aside.
Spence is the guy inside the centre circle, despite playing RB. Normally you could blame him of being way out of position, but he's just the next man up in this scenario. He's all the way up there because the entire midfield trio of Bentancur-Bergvall-Kulusevski is behind the play, which is related to other dominoes falling earlier.
This is straightforward stuff from now on. A simple pass to a runner, who'll challenge Gray at 1v1 and have a crack at it.
My takeaway is this: Our pressing is extremely naive and puts unrealistic expectations on players. They're almost expected to man mark full length of the pitch at all times, without anybody missing any assignment. No picking your spots, no insurance, nothing. So even a minor hiccup in the form of getting beaten off the dribble or missing an interception creates a domino effect where more and more players are dragged out of position until almost everybody ends up behind the play and tries to scramble back in desperation.
This doesn't mean that this team is full of defensive stalwarts. But I think our almost nonexistent team shape is the main issue here.
Son is the initial domino that falls here, he leaves the left side open by being too ambitious with his effort. This'll be relevant shortly
Bergvall is the next man up, he rotates to the left to pick up Son's assignment. Kulusevski follows Bergvall to possibly provide cover for him. Udogie does likewise to pick up the next pass, which drags Bentancur away from the centre towards the left. But notice how this opens the centre of the pitch. Ipswich player right next to the ref is open already. He can potentially be the one that'll allow them to carry the ball forward if/when they beat this press.
There's already a simple pass to the aforementioned player here, and there's nobody around him that can potentially stop him from carrying the ball forward. Player on the ball misses this passing opportunity by the way.
There's the second opportunity for the said pass, and the player on the ball this time takes it.
As can be expected, the receiver has no problem getting the ball and bursting forward. There's nobody in the close vicinity that can cause him any sort of problem, Johnson's insignificant last second attempt aside.
Spence is the guy inside the centre circle, despite playing RB. Normally you could blame him of being way out of position, but he's just the next man up in this scenario. He's all the way up there because the entire midfield trio of Bentancur-Bergvall-Kulusevski is behind the play, which is related to other dominoes falling earlier.
This is straightforward stuff from now on. A simple pass to a runner, who'll challenge Gray at 1v1 and have a crack at it.
My takeaway is this: Our pressing is extremely naive and puts unrealistic expectations on players. They're almost expected to man mark full length of the pitch at all times, without anybody missing any assignment. No picking your spots, no insurance, nothing. So even a minor hiccup in the form of getting beaten off the dribble or missing an interception creates a domino effect where more and more players are dragged out of position until almost everybody ends up behind the play and tries to scramble back in desperation.
This doesn't mean that this team is full of defensive stalwarts. But I think our almost nonexistent team shape is the main issue here.
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Quite a few here acknowledging that the club is mentally weak. For all his faults, that was one of, if not the, first things he identified about the club. "'Walk through the halls mate! NO BRAGGING RIGHTS TROPHIES IN THERE.
That culture only comes through winning.
One thing he isn't is mentally weak. The guy has won everywhere he has gone. Only once at Celtic did he have superior resources. One example was was expecting him to throw a home game FFS (and then hammering for going out to ...wint). You don't build a winning culture throwing games to spite another club. "He doesn't get it!". He did and he does. Winning is everything.
That culture only comes through winning.
One thing he isn't is mentally weak. The guy has won everywhere he has gone. Only once at Celtic did he have superior resources. One example was was expecting him to throw a home game FFS (and then hammering for going out to ...wint). You don't build a winning culture throwing games to spite another club. "He doesn't get it!". He did and he does. Winning is everything.
I still think that if Ange experiences a traumatic brain injury, there's a solid chance that could be the essential catalyst to help us win the league next season.
look at danso for cities goal. Sums up how ridiculous it isPorro being all over the place defensively seems to be the consensus here, but at this point I'm inclined to blame our next-man-up, gung ho pressing for most of the individual errors. Because even our defensively more astute players such as Danso and Spence are not immune to ending up in weird spots on the pitch while defending. The former was halfway into City's half in the buildup of their goal for example, while the latter was nowhere to be found in the first minute against Ipswich when they were about to score from his side.
Son is the initial domino that falls here, he leaves the left side open by being too ambitious with his effort. This'll be relevant shortly
Bergvall is the next man up, he rotates to the left to pick up Son's assignment. Kulusevski follows Bergvall to possibly provide cover for him. Udogie does likewise to pick up the next pass, which drags Bentancur away from the centre towards the left. But notice how this opens the centre of the pitch. Ipswich player right next to the ref is open already. He can potentially be the one that'll allow them to carry the ball forward if/when they beat this press.
There's already a simple pass to the aforementioned player here, and there's nobody around him that can potentially stop him from carrying the ball forward. Player on the ball misses this passing opportunity by the way.
There's the second opportunity for the said pass, and the player on the ball this time takes it.
As can be expected, the receiver has no problem getting the ball and bursting forward. There's nobody in the close vicinity that can cause him any sort of problem, Johnson's insignificant last second attempt aside.
Spence is the guy inside the centre circle, despite playing RB. Normally you could blame him of being way out of position, but he's just the next man up in this scenario. He's all the way up there because the entire midfield trio of Bentancur-Bergvall-Kulusevski is behind the play, which is related to other dominoes falling earlier.
This is straightforward stuff from now on. A simple pass to a runner, who'll challenge Gray at 1v1 and have a crack at it.
My takeaway is this: Our pressing is extremely naive and puts unrealistic expectations on players. They're almost expected to man mark full length of the pitch at all times, without anybody missing any assignment. No picking your spots, no insurance, nothing. So even a minor hiccup in the form of getting beaten off the dribble or missing an interception creates a domino effect where more and more players are dragged out of position until almost everybody ends up behind the play and tries to scramble back in desperation.
This doesn't mean that this team is full of defensive stalwarts. But I think our almost nonexistent team shape is the main issue here.
We're not winning though are we. 14 league defeats out of the cups and just maybe an EL.
Well he threw the City game the other night giving players minutes to get fit instead of putting out strongest team to win it