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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%
  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%

  • Total voters
    113
He won in Australia and Japan with teams the subject of a salary cap, so just couldn’t buy a league. Won an Asian cup with Australia. All of these results were coupled with acknowledgment that they played the best football in the league.

He has obviously been tested. There’s more to life than the premier league.
So?

It's all comparable to non league football compared to the PL.
He'd have the same trouble in most of Europe's top leagues with anyone who isn’t the dominant team there.

Look at the W/L/D column in the La Liga table from 6th down. They all beat eachother as they all fight equally. It's only the top few teams that pull ahead. Same for most elite leagues nowadays.
 
He won in Australia and Japan with teams the subject of a salary cap, so just couldn’t buy a league. Won an Asian cup with Australia. All of these results were coupled with acknowledgment that they played the best football in the league.

He has obviously been tested. There’s more to life than the premier league.
It's a series of achievements almost up there with my second place in the Kent County egg-and-spoon race in 1988.
 
He won in Australia and Japan with teams the subject of a salary cap, so just couldn’t buy a league. Won an Asian cup with Australia. All of these results were coupled with acknowledgment that they played the best football in the league.

He has obviously been tested. There’s more to life than the premier league.
EPL is based on physicality and pace at the highest level. Comparing leagues like Japan and Australia is foolish.

EPL is like the NBA. No one comes close anymore.
 
It's a series of achievements almost up there with my second place in the Kent County egg-and-spoon race in 1988.
We still talk about you man. The streets haven't forgotten.
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Fans and boards are extremely fickle by nature,that's why the refusal to sack him after going out on two cups might be very consequential for the next season. After sticking with him despite hitting the rock bottom, how will they justify letting him go in the summer IF our form actually improves over the next few months? Suddenly the whole narrative surrounding him would shift, with predominant theme becoming how it was injuries all along. Such a shift was starting to occur even here during that mini win streak until City put an end to it.

Let's for the sake of argument imagine him winning 5 or 6 on the spin to finish the season on a high note. It obviously wouldn't make him a better manager all of a sudden, but deciding his fate would become infinitely more difficult than it is right now. All because of the aforementioned fickleness.Then what? Would you stick with him, in the hope that he had finally turned some kind of a corner? Or would you write it off as a purple patch?

Those who are dead certain that he's gone in the summer are mistaken IMO. He can get another season even without winning EL based on the reasoning I outlined above.
 
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Fans and boards are extremely fickle by nature,that's why the refusal to sack him after going out on two cups might be very consequential for the next season. After sticking with him despite hitting the rock bottom, how will they justify letting him go in the summer IF our form actually improves over the next few months? Suddenly the whole narrative surrounding him would shift, with predominant theme becoming how it was injuries all along. Such a shift was starting to occur even here during that mini win streak until City put an end to it.

Let's for the sake of argument imagine him winning 5 or 6 on the spin to finish the season on a high note. It obviously wouldn't make him a better manager all of a sudden, but deciding his fate would become infinitely more difficult than it is right now. All because of the aforementioned fickleness.Then what? Would you stick with him, in the hope that he had finally turned some kind of a corner? Or would you write it off as a purple patch?

Those who are dead certain that he's gone in the summer are mistaken IMO. He can get another season even without winning EL based on the reasoning I outlined above.
Bottom line is he isn't good enough and would be a mistake to give him next season.

He should have been gone months ago.
 
He’s definitely out of his depth a bit when it comes to that.

When Dier mentioned there was no specific work without the ball Ange clearly said he doesn’t do it.

The Spanish and Italians live for it. Hours spent on the pitch playing against nobody or just working on shape. On a personal level I learnt loads working with Spanish coaches. Their mindset / skill set is quite different to the Uk coaching. And the Spanish and Italian mentality has really seeped into English football over the last 20 odd years.

He would just have not been exposed to that level before due to his background.

There is an element of him learning on the job.
Although that can be said for quite a few managers at any time in this league. Ruud for instance. Although Ruud has worked with the best managers in the world over his career to shape his ideas to.
Ange is 60 been in management over 25 years.
 
Bottom line is he isn't good enough and would be a mistake to give him next season.

He should have been gone months ago.
I can see a few wins in meaningless end of season games and we scrape into 8th. Then the narrative will be about the injuries being what stopped us being in the top 4. He gets another year and we waste another season and sack him once it goes pear shaped.

That would be how we roll.
 
Managers with the most premier league titles.

1. Ferguson - came from backwater Scottish league.
2. Pep - from Barcelona.
3. Mourinho - from the Portuguese league
4. Wenger - from Japanese league.

Looks like Anges past is fine. If he’s not up for it, it’s not because of his pathway.
 
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