It's flimsy but I think McKenna has something about him. His Ipswich team have played some decent football considering he doesnt have a wealth of talent at his disposal. He has got the most out of his squad and whilst i doubt it'll be enough to keep them up I still think he will be in the Prem next season... add in the Spurs connection and that's about it really. But like I said, I know there are many who don't want him.
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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If he loses Sunday I think that has to be it.
"Yeah but that's what I'm saying, every time. you can't just say play"
That's what it looks like he said to me
And if that is what he's saying. He clearly doesn't rate Ange, who stands there on the touchline shouting "play"
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And who would that be?
I still can’t shake the fear levy won’t sack him because he’ll fall for Ange’s bullshit. We are dealing with a stupid clever person with levy.
I think he’s saying “it’s always the same players” in regards to who gets subbed.
Well he seems a tad frustrated with the set up, how his hand gestures as he speaks.
Maybe he's just annoyed about being.subbed off?
Do you think he could see it coming hence his dour prematch attitude?
They could have been talking about the failed set pieces as well. Attacking or defending.
Most likely talking about the same transition phase that always undoes us imo
Yeah also I think he's annoyed at how shit we are and easy to play against.
And Ange doesn't give better instruction to change something.
Mourinho should have been sacked after the debacle in Croatia and is also very good at winning cups - Ange is a walking disaster who can only win in crap leagues, has a chaotic way of playing leaving us totally exposed and has not learned to adapt - So yeah I'd sack him now
Yeah he 100% should have gone losing at home to Leicester and that horrendous Everton match yet here we still are.
Why is levy giving up all that finishing position prize money by keeping him on. That’s so unlike him and what makes so little sense from my perspective. Nothing in the last 20 plus years has shown us that that is how levy behaves. So why is he doing it now?
The thing I cannot understand is how the movement off the ball, the first time passes round corners, and fluid football that he introduced after one pre-season, and was electric for the first 3 months of last season, has totally disappeared? When was the last time Son played a first time, blind pass for Udogie or Maddison running in behind? When we get the ball now the first instinct is not to lose it and to pass backwards. Where is the old Ange stood angrily shouting "PASS FORWARDS" like he did when he first came? When our CBs have the ball the FBs go an stand centrally, behind the opposition's forwards (so they cannot be passed to). So the CB has to the other CB or pass out wide to Son or Johnson who both take a crap touch and get tackled or pass back to the CBs. Static, low risk, boring, easy to defend football. Passes are slow and often, when played sideways, behind the recipient so they have to turn back towards our goal. There is no 'zip' to a pass. And no ambition from either the passer or the runners. We are now more boring and predictable than we were under Mourinho or Conte - and that is saying something! I would like to see a change at the end of this season (May not August).
Makes you wonder doesn't it, potential change of ownership?
Can’t wait for the season to end hopefully big changes in the summer.
I doubt we're ever going to know for sure what he said but he certainly seems a tad frustrated.
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Lose the home match on Thursday and he must be gone but maybe not until the end of the season.
If we start with Tel as CF it's self sabotage by Postecoglou.
From a tactical standpoint I'd argue that things were looking worse, not better, when comfort blankets that are Romero and Vdv were out there playing, as their presence was allowing Ange to be even more cavalier and one dimensional with his pressing schemes, defensive line and such. This obviously doesn't mean their absence has suddenly made Ange a tactically more astute manager, far from it. But things weren't better with Romero and VdV in terms of Xs and Os. They were just really good at papering over the cracks.
Their absence has forced his hand to tone down some stuff, to start look elsewhere for answers. That second half against the Wolves where we almost parked the bus, second leg against Liverpool where we did -try to- park the bus, that pitiful attempt at a back 3 against Everton in the first half were all Ange's attempts at innovation. Of course he failed -miserably- in all of these, as there was very little coherent and sound thinking going on behind these changes. He was just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Nothing did unfortunately.
I think at this point even he knows that asking your CBs to stand on the halfway line and do extraordinary defensive work every match is not a viable strategy. You don't see the Gray-Danso duo playing the same way the Romero-VdV duo was playing. He knows things have to change, that he can't bulldoze his way through opponents and competitions. But knowing and doing are worlds apart, and he has been coming to this realization. He just lacks the required tactical acumen at this level, and I think he knows this too.
In that sense I feel for him, as he has been expecting to be put out of his misery for quite some time. Don't let that fake bravado fool you, he's deeply insecure inside. This negligence of Levy and co has been hurting him too. This is not me painting him as some kind of a victim, because he's not. For starters, he can always resign instead of holding out for the payout. But I'm calling it like I see it.
Their absence has forced his hand to tone down some stuff, to start look elsewhere for answers. That second half against the Wolves where we almost parked the bus, second leg against Liverpool where we did -try to- park the bus, that pitiful attempt at a back 3 against Everton in the first half were all Ange's attempts at innovation. Of course he failed -miserably- in all of these, as there was very little coherent and sound thinking going on behind these changes. He was just throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. Nothing did unfortunately.
I think at this point even he knows that asking your CBs to stand on the halfway line and do extraordinary defensive work every match is not a viable strategy. You don't see the Gray-Danso duo playing the same way the Romero-VdV duo was playing. He knows things have to change, that he can't bulldoze his way through opponents and competitions. But knowing and doing are worlds apart, and he has been coming to this realization. He just lacks the required tactical acumen at this level, and I think he knows this too.
In that sense I feel for him, as he has been expecting to be put out of his misery for quite some time. Don't let that fake bravado fool you, he's deeply insecure inside. This negligence of Levy and co has been hurting him too. This is not me painting him as some kind of a victim, because he's not. For starters, he can always resign instead of holding out for the payout. But I'm calling it like I see it.
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No mate hes talking about the same damn tactics all the time. Maddison has been sick of it for a long time so much so that he wanted to fuck off.
Its become a bit of a mugs game predicting when he'll be sacked. Normal circumstances there are about 4 occasions during this season when he should have gone. I think ideally they want to give him the season, they dont want another interim. But lose to Bournemouth and go out to AZ then i think the pressure will prove too much. He might get Fulham 3 days later but then we have 2 weekends without a game. Could argue by that stage its all a bit pointless anyway, way too late.
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