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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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Just being in the Champions League is not any kind of success. How difficult is that to understand?
I'm actually a pom mate, I just live in Australia. I post on multiple threads, but obviously the Ange one is very busy.
I'm Ange out btw....
Fair dinkum cobber...
But you have to qualify in order to win it don't you??
That wasn't your original point. Your original point was that you want to play against Real Madrid rather than Qarabag. That was it.
It's an interesting question. We don't hear much from technical directors and directors of football operations as managers are the public face of the team. But people like Johan Lange are responsible for managing the manager and insuring what he is doing aligns with the team's long term direction and gets results. What I'm suggesting is that Postecoglou's bosses need to be having hard conversations that may require adjusting tactics and staff. At this point everyone's priority should be saving the project.
Play it on double speed. Then it’s 30 mins and he talks like a normal person
It might not be to you, but to Chairmen, Managers and players it absolutely is.
Football is a job, and they all want their bonus.
Im neither a chairman, a manager or a player.
Fair play Shady. This is probably your finest post here.
Of course I do! My original point was that I wouldn't want to throw a game that stopped us getting in the CL just to stop Woolwich winning the title.
To give up the chance for fans to travel to Madrid on a Wednesday night and watch us play against Real under the lights.
To experience another 'miracle of Amsterdam', far out, I wasn't at that game, but I bet the fans that were wouldn't trade that moment....
Yes it is, teams try to succeed by qualifying, there's just no trophy for that success, the trophy can't be won by a team that isn't in it.
Nope.
Last season the aim was not to finish top 4. The aim was not to do a Newcastle and have CL football but struggle in the league.
The aim was to just show progression. To correct the thousands of things wrong with the club.
12 months on we would see how Ange has moved the club forward. There is a valid argument we have regressed this season.
But Ange fucked up saying Top 4 is not important. He took the pressure off the players. Pressure is something you need to get used to, especially if you want to win trophies.
And his top 4 message, first the team and then - once we lost at home to Woolwich - the fans embraced. And he then got upset!! The first time his love of a contradiction really became apparent.
Possibly, but typically its been described previously as the payout that Spurs are required to spend on each manager. Unless it is specifically negotiated, I can't imagine that the contract isn't paid out in full. It would be more like a welfare check if just paid out until they find another job.
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It’s only going one way from here…
Not sure any manager has come back from this stage once pretty much all the fans have turned.
We've 100% regressed this season, with what I believe is a stronger squad than last season.
You're spot on about the lack of ability to play under pressure, that's why we have the Spursy tag. Because winning isn't our team mentality. We try to win the league, when that's out of reach we aim for top 4, because it is important, then top 6 etc.
Now being linked with Silva...
Daniel Levy 'to back Marco Silva' at Tottenham after Postecoglou sack news
Marco Silva is a manager who may be considered by Daniel Levy if Tottenham opt to sack Ange Postecoglou at the end of the season.www.tottenhamhotspurnews.com
Last week it was Iraola...
Basically, we're being linked weekly with any manager who has our number...
That's starting to become a fucking long list!!!!!
Even Ruud van Nistelrooy meets that criteria!!
If I were a sports journo, I would find a forum like this one for each club I needed to cover, and relentlessly steal intellectual content from it's members. Almost all these stories sounds like they are ripped directly from our pages, and I've no doubt there's at least a few sports journos here doing just that.
Then top half....
I gave Ange a lot of leg room for several reasons:
1 it’s clear ENIC and Levy have fucked managers for ages. Particularly during the transfer window with an injury crisis the pressure had to be on Levy not the manager and to be fair the fans did that 100% and the media jumped on their back (well done fans!)
2 I am tired of rebuild and change all the time. I really wanted continuity.
3 As a club we are an attacking club. No Spurs manager should ever be defensive, it is anti-Spurs and Jose wound me up with his shit. Ange at least talked the right game.
4 the injury crisis was extreme and I was willing to allow it to subside to see where we were.
For me it’s over for a few reasons
1 we have all our players back and we are as tactically disjointed as AVB without Bale. That is a coaching issue not a player issue. On its own it is a sackable offence simply on the basis that the manager isn’t good enough.
2 I was angry with Ange about the Woolwich game last season and his feelings around us not wanting Woolwich to win the league. He said sorry which I took in good faith but he has been really spiky with fans unlike the board who he kisses arse. I have started to turn off him as a person.
3 whole thing feels inevitable now. He looks out of his depth. I should have seen the warnings when he spoke in terms of just emotions while Slot speaks tactics when in front of camera.
1 it’s clear ENIC and Levy have fucked managers for ages. Particularly during the transfer window with an injury crisis the pressure had to be on Levy not the manager and to be fair the fans did that 100% and the media jumped on their back (well done fans!)
2 I am tired of rebuild and change all the time. I really wanted continuity.
3 As a club we are an attacking club. No Spurs manager should ever be defensive, it is anti-Spurs and Jose wound me up with his shit. Ange at least talked the right game.
4 the injury crisis was extreme and I was willing to allow it to subside to see where we were.
For me it’s over for a few reasons
1 we have all our players back and we are as tactically disjointed as AVB without Bale. That is a coaching issue not a player issue. On its own it is a sackable offence simply on the basis that the manager isn’t good enough.
2 I was angry with Ange about the Woolwich game last season and his feelings around us not wanting Woolwich to win the league. He said sorry which I took in good faith but he has been really spiky with fans unlike the board who he kisses arse. I have started to turn off him as a person.
3 whole thing feels inevitable now. He looks out of his depth. I should have seen the warnings when he spoke in terms of just emotions while Slot speaks tactics when in front of camera.