when i was (some might say).. a mediocre manager (not necessarily a football manager in case anyone gets any ideas).. I would ask people to look "happy" when near me. Those were the days. If they weren't looking happy I would question their integrity (are you looking at me?.. you wanna fight or something?). We all nodded and it was FINE !
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Manager Ange Postecoglou
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I think we'll win Europa, so its a moot point but if we were knocked out this round I think you let Postecoglou finish the season and make a change in the off season. There's nothing to salvage so no point in bringing in a caretaker. Win or lose, I think Postecoglou is firing himself with this incessant critique of the people who want him gone. Does he actually think he can save his job by going before the press and being angry about what has been said about, as if that will persuade his critics or intimidate the club into keeping him? The best outcome for everyone is he wins a trophy and then he and club work out a separation.
It was called Chris Davis and people on the board at Spurs are fully aware of this. Was told this plain. It's part of why Ange will not win the Europa and be simply forgiven. It's just you left thinking he was some how good but now he's not I'm afraid.
Matt1882 Hang tough it's done don't stress he's being replaced. It's an open secret at the club.
So Chris Davis is the new manager then?
he was the old one so why not?
So Postecoglou was just a front for Chris Davis, doing PR and and Player liason whilst Chris was the tactical mastermind?
I think he's gone if we get knocked out IMO, immediate future depends on Europe.
it would appear so
To state the obvious, it will certainly get far easier to justify if we do with the EL. I want Ange gone asap, but I do think some on this board underestimate how massive that would be for the club.
I've posted before that my view is if we win the EL, we will start the next season with Ange in charge.
AsShadydan said, I can’t believe that’s the issue. We’ve lost millions on our league placings, so it would have to be a pretty hearty contract break fee to make it worthwhile. One I just don’t see Ange having.
I think it’s more that Levy has seemingly tried everything to make the club a success and has failed at every turn. The only two things he hasn’t tried is spending more on fees and wages than anyone else (never happening), or giving a manager, any manager, multiple seasons to get things right. Maybe this is him giving option two a try?
Well he gave Poch a chance as he wasn’t great when he first came here but he probably saw something in Poch that persuaded him to give him time
We’ll probably never know but levy got a lot of criticism for sacking Jose on the eve of a Cup Final so probably didn’t like that and is determined to let Ange have his cup run before letting him go and I think that’s already been discussed between the two !
Ange probably looking elsewhere for a club and Levy looking elsewhere for a manager
IMV
Thank for keeping the debate civilised though without the “that’s a dumb comment!” sort of remarks from the ManChild!
Oooh big bad me, I spoke the truth about Ange and called your little Maddie the c-word.
Cup or no, he is gone. What a ride eh. Hope he can bring us some glory. Funny that we will look back with great fondness if the ropey goes well, but league is another caper altogether. Ange got my interest up enough to find an online forum, but he’s not why i’m a spurs. Nice work big fella, hope you do well in you next gig in the future - your resume should include ‘got a cup with spurs’ and ‘changed the culture’
Hmm I think you are missing the obvious man, the player still behind him...in the queue for the buffet.
No there was no master mind. But the little cohesive coaching that was being done left at the start of this season with Chris Davis and the dysfunctional shit shower we have endured since has been the result of your Aussie brains trust of Postecoglou, Jedinak, Raimondo. Hey its not me saying it bubba it's all out there.
Advance Australia fair!!!!!
In fact I've made it clear and want to do it again. It's been so unimpressive a tenure that I genuinely feel sorry for a generation of Australian coaches. These clowns have reputationally ruined them. No serious clubs are going to give them a fair shot in Europe no matter how good they are for a long time to come.
No problem
A few reasons why that doesn't make sense to me.
Why would Levy ever agree to something so restrictive?
What kind of bargaining power did Ange really have to insist upon it? Can see how he might have wanted something like that based on Mourinho, but we're hardly talking about a top tier manager who could play hardball over it.
Surely if one side was putting in such clauses then Levy would be putting in something equally weighted on such dismal league performance?
Reminds me of when people were convinced that Levy sacked Jose a week before the cup final because he didn't want to pay him his payout if he'd have won that
Let's be real, there is no "Angeball", he just picks 11 names and chucks them out on the pitch.
Randomly telling a few of the positions to do batshit things does not warrant being credited with having developed your own system.
Me deciding I'm gonna throw some rice in the toaster instead of the standard method doesn't make me the originator of Herclueless-cuisine does it, it just makes me a fucking idiot.
It's funny some of the Internet rumours that somehow become set in stone and taken as fact.Reminds me of when people were convinced that Levy sacked Jose a week before the cup final because he didn't want to pay him his payout if he'd have won that
Harry Winks the dressing room mole of yesteryear.
Ryan Mason Levy's man on the inside.
Tons of others that are escaping my recollection right now.
No evidence whatsoever, but the hate generated is very real.