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harry7 said:
In which case, we may very well be achieving exactly that this season. We are 90 minutes, and a Onana howler away from a Champions League place.

So, if Champions League qualification is all that we aspire too - hasn't Ange in fact done a fantastic job? He's got Champions League AND a Trophy - The statue can't be built quick enough!
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If you consider 20+ league defeats a 'fantastic job' then yes.

We know it's you Arsene. And no, we won't be keeping Ange. Perhaps you can have him at Woolwich when you get rid of Legohead.
 
harry7 said:
I don't think any of those examples get anywhere near our aspirations. We want to be challenging for the title.

Palace - Very average season in the league despite a good squad (that stayed fit). 6 points from 33 against top 6 teams.
Newcastle - Seem to have hit their ceiling with Howe and the current squad. Only 3 players under 25 in their squad, and a number of important players now over 30. They will do well to keep Bruno and Isak this summer.
Forest - Spent over 400m, and likely to end up 7th. Will probably lose their best players in the summer.
Wolves - Spurs can still finish this season above them.

It would do good to remember, that even with injuries, Ange's Spurs finished above all of those teams (bar villa) last season.

The nonsense about it only being 10 games that defined our season is just that - nonsense. All teams outside of the top 1 or 2 tend to have hot and cold periods. Villa for instance, were good up until mid-December, then won only 8 of their remaining 21 games - with only 1 of those wins coming against a team in the top half.
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Have some more straws to clutch... if Palace's season in the league (12th) is very average, what does that make ours (17th). Newcastle have hit a ceiling with an ageing squad. Bruno 27, Tonali 25, Joelinton 28, Barnes 27, Isak 25, Gordon 24, Livramento 22. All important, all under 30. Looks like they are about to hit their prime rather than their ceiling. If they do sell Bruno and Isak then they are going to have serious money to re-invest.
I'm not even going to bother with Forest and Wolves one of which did the double over us and we managed a solitary point against the other. We were 8 point clear of Wolves at the turn of the year and now we need Wolves to lose their last two games and a win against Brighton to finish level on points with them.
 
harry7 said:
I don't think any of those examples get anywhere near our aspirations. We want to be challenging for the title.

Palace - Very average season in the league despite a good squad (that stayed fit). 6 points from 33 against top 6 teams.
Newcastle - Seem to have hit their ceiling with Howe and the current squad. Only 3 players under 25 in their squad, and a number of important players now over 30. They will do well to keep Bruno and Isak this summer.
Forest - Spent over 400m, and likely to end up 7th. Will probably lose their best players in the summer.
Wolves - Spurs can still finish this season above them.

It would do good to remember, that even with injuries, Ange's Spurs finished above all of those teams (bar villa) last season.

The nonsense about it only being 10 games that defined our season is just that - nonsense. All teams outside of the top 1 or 2 tend to have hot and cold periods. Villa for instance, were good up until mid-December, then won only 8 of their remaining 21 games - with only 1 of those wins coming against a team in the top half.
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You posted something so mental even Shady couldn't agree with you.

The shark has been jumped.
 
_mehstg said:
Have some more straws to clutch... if Palace's season in the league (12th) is very average, what does that make ours (17th). Newcastle have hit a ceiling with an ageing squad. Bruno 27, Tonali 25, Joelinton 28, Barnes 27, Isak 25, Gordon 24, Livramento 22. All important, all under 30. Looks like they are about to hit their prime rather than their ceiling. If they do sell Bruno and Isak then they are going to have serious money to re-invest.
I'm not even going to bother with Forest and Wolves one of which did the double over us and we managed a solitary point against the other. We were 8 point clear of Wolves at the turn of the year and now we need Wolves to lose their last two games and a win against Brighton to finish level on points with them.
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I suspect fans of bourmouth, Brighton , Brentford, Wolves, palace, forest etc would give their right bollock to swap with us and be in European final.

But hey, if finishing 4th with an empty trophy cabinet floats your boat....
 
harry7 said:
I suspect fans of bourmouth, Brighton , Brentford, Wolves, palace, forest etc would give their right bollock to swap with us and be in European final.

But hey, if finishing 4th with an empty trophy cabinet floats your boat....
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If the limit of your ambitions for Spurs is to make Brighton, Brentford and Wolves jealous, then I suppose it explains your love of Ange.
 
harry7 said:
I suspect fans of bourmouth, Brighton , Brentford, Wolves, palace, forest etc would give their right bollock to swap with us and be in European final.

But hey, if finishing 4th with an empty trophy cabinet floats your boat....
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Comparing expectations of tottenham to those clubs listed is as ridiculous as comparing our standards to Liverpool psg and Barcelona, and trust me none of those fans are giving their right bollock to swap positions with us.

Even those clubs you listed, not a single of their fans would rather ange in charge than their current manager lol
 
harry7 said:
I suspect fans of bourmouth, Brighton , Brentford, Wolves, palace, forest etc would give their right bollock to swap with us and be in European final.

But hey, if finishing 4th with an empty trophy cabinet floats your boat....
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I think Palace and Newcastle fans will be just fine... they've actually won a final this year... not just made a final. Come back on Thursday and maybe we can debate boat floating.
 
_mehstg said:
Have some more straws to clutch... if Palace's season in the league (12th) is very average, what does that make ours (17th). Newcastle have hit a ceiling with an ageing squad. Bruno 27, Tonali 25, Joelinton 28, Barnes 27, Isak 25, Gordon 24, Livramento 22. All important, all under 30. Looks like they are about to hit their prime rather than their ceiling. If they do sell Bruno and Isak then they are going to have serious money to re-invest.
I'm not even going to bother with Forest and Wolves one of which did the double over us and we managed a solitary point against the other. We were 8 point clear of Wolves at the turn of the year and now we need Wolves to lose their last two games and a win against Brighton to finish level on points with them.
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Ageing squad? If they get 4-5 good new recruits they won’t be far off the top of the league. Since Eddie Howe arrived I don’t think they have made a bad buy. Surprised they fell away at Woolwich yesterday.
They are a very good side but the squad needs bolstering . If it isn’t they might struggle with the champ lge.
Their best team can take anybody on. Howe has improved Murphy and Joelinton beyond expectation.
 
Perryman said:
Ageing squad? If they get 4-5 good new recruits they won’t be far off the top of the league. Since Eddie Howe arrived I don’t think they have made a bad buy. Surprised they fell away at Woolwich yesterday.
They are a very good side but the squad needs bolstering . If it isn’t they might struggle with the champ lge.
Their best team can take anybody on. Howe has improved Murphy and Joelinton beyond expectation.
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Perryman - I agree... I was responding theatrically to harry who suggested the squad was ageing and nearing their ceiling. I was pointing out they're nearing their prime.
 
harry7 said:
In which case, we may very well be achieving exactly that this season. We are 90 minutes, and a Onana howler away from a Champions League place.

So, if Champions League qualification is all that we aspire too - hasn't Ange in fact done a fantastic job? He's got Champions League AND a Trophy - The statue can't be built quick enough!
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Can this deluded walloper please be permanently banned lol
 
Season 9 Episode 13 GIF by The Simpsons
 
Murphy said:
Can this deluded walloper please be permanently banned lol
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Occasionally I watch a Donald trump press conference and think what type of idiot is believing this shit?

Then I come on here and read Harry’s posts and the world makes perfect sense.

Just remember.

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

Bonnet de douche Garcon!!
 
_mehstg said:
A new manager can certainly change course and we absolutely have bring in someone new this summer.

If we look at your recent managerial changes we're any of the predecessors damaging the club.

Eddie Howe took over from Steve Bruce as new owners wanted their man. He wasn't doing a horrible job considering he had no money under Ashley.

Nuno didn't really cause any damage here before Conte took over.

A lot of people thought Gary O'Neil was unlucky to lose his job to Iraola and many credit the work he did as foundational for what Iraola is doing now.

In most of these cases, the manager coming in didn't find dumpster fire like our next manager is going to find.

Whoever he is will inherit a mentally fragile, injury prone, unbalanced squad who have been playing poorly for 18 months and have set all kinds of unwanted records. He will also need to sell one, if not two of his best assets to generare transfer funds. Granted they may win the Europa but that is not papering over the cracks. The Champions League will be fun but let's face it, this squad would be doing well to get out of the group stage.

In summary. Any new manager is gonna need time. In fact, I've already written off next season. If we can steer clear of relegation and at least be good at home, finish mid table then I'll be fine with that.
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You underestimate how quickly things can change in football.

Confidence, hard work and belief. All can be instilled by a new manager. All players need it. And it makes a huge difference. We're nowhere near as bad as Ange is making us look.
 
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