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Management Ange Postecoglou
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Id love for us to show the same fight regardless of whats on stake.Watching Brighton v pool both made a lot of change but I’m struggling to see why Brighton are so determined and fought back twice. Remind me what they have left to play for
But the consensus of opinions on here say Ange doesn't know what he's doing.. the TOP level eufa badges show CLEARLY that he does.. and as for your 10 year olds coachs, lucky him. And as for the rest of your argument, his personality ect ect. I take it your basing this part of your argument on ? his post match interviews.. and a few clips on the clubs web site., I'm sure it feels your insight is valid and justified, and trust me I feel this seasons pain as much as anyone. but when you actually examine your arguments premise.. it's foundation is just piss poor .
And your advocating another change in management and yet another restructure?, surely we've lived through 2 many of them, and it's time to take/try another track.
Just ignore them like they weren't there
I think it's called word salad just random comments that are meaningless
I think it's called word salad just random comments that are meaningless
You think a UEFA badge is all you need to be a good manager. Is an MBA from a redbrick all you need to be a good CEO?
I was being ironic tbh. If they play like that b us at home they will bang in a few
If they give him another season I'm certain we will be relegated. So I have no problem rolling the dice.
Still just about enough time to sack the c*** before the final.COYS
What by keeping the worst manager we’ve had in 40 years?
That makes sense.
No it’s his win. He can take full credit for it. Ten Haag won 2 trophies. Martinez won the FA cup. Didn’t prevent them being sacked.
Shit managers can win trophies. Roberto Di Matteo is a Champions League winner. He’s also a fucking shit manager. Bobby Gould won the FA Cup, he was borderline retarded.
Any donkey can have their day. Let’s hope this Wednesday is Ange’s.
Nice to read a balanced opinion.
This season really has been an exception. Fans seem to have forgotten that fixture congestion and the injury crisis meant that the squad was unable to train for 2 months.
"In a recent interview, he described the situation as “extreme,” noting that for over two months, players—including teenagers and senior squad members—were being asked to play Thursday, Sunday, Thursday, Sunday without rest. He emphasized that this relentless schedule left little room for proper training or recovery, contributing to a significant injury crisis"
I agree that this is not unusual for teams competing in Europe and, still in domestic cup competitions - but it is unusual to do this with so many players missing through injury.
Every season we see "top" teams dip out of the domestic cup competitions - a strategic decision to focus on Europe or the EPL. So, whilst I feel it was an insult to season ticket holders, ditching the EPL was a strategic decision to allow us to focus on the cup competitions. A risk that could pay huge dividends (Trophy + Champs Leage), but also one that carries huge risk (humiliation and lost EPL prize money).
I think if Ange were to stay next season, we would see a significant difference. If the players can remain fit, we have a good core of experienced players to handle the EPL, and some excellent young players who have had valuable experience this season to tackle the Cup comps.
Amorim, Ten Haag, Mourinho, Conte, Ange - all given squads of 800m+ value.
Are these all bad, failing coaches - or are there deeper issues at the club preventing progress? The appointment of these coaches who have been successful everywhere they have been shows that the core issue is NOT the coaching staff.
I get the impression that the playing squad is united against the club; and dislike Levy and the board - and from talking to United fans, the same seems to be going on at their end.
Absolutely agree – this is such a well-rounded take. Emotional supporters (understandably) get caught up in the highs and lows, and often forget the context – like the brutal fixture congestion and injury crisis – because their passion creates natural biases. And that’s ok, it comes from a place of deep care for the club.
But it has been an exceptional season. Expecting peak performance without recovery or training for two months, especially while relying on youth players, was always going to come at a cost. It’s also true that other top teams often deprioritise certain competitions – so while the EPL drop-off felt harsh, it was a calculated gamble with potential for a big payoff.
If Ange stays and we get a fair run with injuries next season, the foundation is clearly there – experienced leaders and battle-hardened young players – to build something exciting.
Go back to the early part of this season before the wave of injuries and look at the record. The problems were evident long before the supposed reason for the failures. Back then, commentators were remarking on how easy it appeared to play against Spurs. The players often didn't appear prepared for the opponent and were quick to give up early goals and turn the ball over in bad positions. I agree, if Postecoglou is allowed to stay next season the record should improve. So then the question becomes, how high is the ceiling utilizing this system?
We were only 4 points behind 2nd place 1/3rd of the way into the season. However, the table was very congested with about 10 teams floating around the same points. But it's fair to say, we were in the mix. Up until half way through the season, we remained the top scoring team in the league. We did have some early results that didn't go our way, despite us being the better team - Woolwich, Newcastle, Brighton and Leicester come to mind.
I'm not sure that we were easy to play against. More so that teams sat back and surrendered the ball and then capitalized on errors - of which our players made many. I feel that if we could eliminate the individual errors, we would be a lot harder to play against.
How high is the ceiling? It's hard to imagine a squad will be able to topple the dominance of City and Liverpool. Woolwich will strengthen. We would need our young players to mature a little more to be consistent.
If we can add some experienced players in the summer in midfield to upgrade on Biss / Sarr I think we would be back in the top 6. However, if we wanted to earn a place in the top 4, we would need a world class keeper.
Well the choices are do another one and try to get it right this time, or continue to languish under this pub league manager
Yeah - it was a 'strategic decision' to play shit football and lose a record number of games. I'm not sure even your hero Ange would agree with that analysis.