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Manager Ange Postecoglou

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Was sacking Ange a good idea?

  • Yes, I think it was a good idea.

    Votes: 73 64.6%

  • No, I think it was a bad idea.

    Votes: 40 35.4%
  • Total voters
    113
Jaynola said:
Qarabag, Ferencvaros, AZ x 3, Hoffenheim, Elfsborg, Bodo = enough said.

Even Roma, Galatasaray and Marmoush-less Frankfurt (who also lost Gotze for a chunk) were hardly PSG...knowing Galatasaray sodomised us and we were lucky not to also lose to Roma.

As for United, I mean...Still, they coulda/shoulda scored at least once last night and might have been a different story had the game gone to ET.

We won it and that's grand. I'll give Ange a couple creds, ditto the players. But unlike you I'm not gonna fool myself into thinking we were Brazil v1970.

To be honest you've been switching sides & opinions more often than a full-time prosie turns tricks, so your takes since EL glory are no surprise.
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Oh give it a rest you fucking idiot.
 
Stateside Spur said:
Just winds me up that we won a European trophy less than 24 hrs ago and our own supporters are doing rivals homework for them.

We are going to hear plenty of nonsense now that EL is not a big trophy or whatever the fuck they want to claim now, but we don’t need our own doing their work for them.
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Our main rivals have won fuck all this season yet, Chelsea might win the Europa Conference, so meh.
 
Don Pedro said:
For a club who went 17 years without a trophy, I really don't think we are in an entitled position to view any trophy as minor.

We came runners up in CL and Prem under Poch are were laughed at for not winning any of the "easier trophies" during that time. We are nowhere near as good as that team was right now. We all know that! But we stepped up when it mattered and won the biggest trophy this club has won in 41 years! Anyone trying to diminish that is not a Spurs fan and if they claim to be, then I don't know what they want to get out of supporting spurs.... Because if you can't enjoy this then whats the point. Will it get any better? Are we going to see Spurs win a CL or EPL in the next 10 years? I hope so but wouldn't say its likely! This is the next best competition we can win and we just won it!
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Exactly. The alternative to winning it is not winning and winning always beats losing.
 
kcspurs said:
I'm not meaning to detract from the players, they delivered a performance that was enough to win the final, that is what matters. They deserve credit for it. They have suffered under this regime in manifold ways and deserved to lift the trophy.

It does not vindicate Ange Postecoglou, who is at 1.03 PPG in the league 2 years in
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True, his record this season in the league is awful.
The matters in his favour are:
  • Won the UEFA Cup (or 'Europa League' if you will)
  • Got half way towards a League Cup final (in that he won the first semi)
  • Had a ton of injuries to key players (whether that's down to him or the absence of a medical team)
  • Fought strongly on four fronts
  • It is kind of normal to see teams have an awful league campaign when doing well in the Europa
  • The players are all 110% behind him
  • Did more for the young players than Poch (whose rep for that is baffling, considering he ruined a generation of the academy for us)
  • Didn't throw anyone else under the bus when things went badly
  • Is now on paper by far our most successful manager for 40 years (measuring successes and scales in terms of competitions won and rep of competition)
If he'd lost the dressing room, fair enough. Problem with another 'reset' (changing manager) is that we've done it a ton of times now and it just doesn't seem to push us on. We'll end up with another manager who wants another totally different squad and probably moans about players like Min-Hyeok and Vuskovic being someone else's players when they could be our next big exciting players.

The matters against him are:
  • Awful in the league
  • Has been very tactically naive outside of the latter stages of the Europa
  • Unlikely to do well in the CL based on his tactical approach and how it went with Celtic
  • Doesn't really seem to play in a way that suits Solanke, Son, and a number of other previously decent players
  • Hasn't got a catchphrase like "I always win the league in the 3rd season, mate" so may have jumped the shark
  • Paratici is unlikely to be a fan, so will be on thin ice
  • Our history of keeping managers for a new season despite league form is not grea

The most important thing for me is that the players are behind him, and his cup success might actually be more enticing to new signings than other options available to us. We are kind of back to the Poch era of 'fresh team' rather than the Jose era of 'established ready-to-win team', so it looks like a project anyway - I'm not really sure if it's the right conditions to do anything but give him the 3rd season he's arguably just earnt.
 
It's perplexing people say EL is an easy cup to win. There is no easy cup to win in any competition.

In fact, winning the EL confirms one and one thing only; our position in the table P17 is false.
 
Hrytn said:
It's perplexing people say EL is an easy cup to win. There is no easy cup to win in any competition.

In fact, winning the EL confirms one and one thing only; our position in the table P17 is false.
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Yeah our position of 17th is false because we narrowly beat 16th in the final .. lmao.

I wonder if some of you believe this shit.. deep down. Both us and United are poor premier league teams who went all in on a cup because both clubs knew it was winnable due to the calibre of opposition.
 
It's time those of us who have criticized him acknowledge that before he came here it had been a very long time since we won a trophy. The turnaround with him has been dramatic and he deserves so much credit. I am speaking, of course, of Timo Werner.
 
Pathfinder said:
...while Spurs declined. So fuck off yourself.
I am being objective and not getting carried away by a EL win. Yes, I am happy Spurs won and enjoy the moment but that win should not cloud the future vision of the club.
But if you think this win has put Spurs among the elite clubs in Europe, feel free to believe so.
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Supported this club long enough to know that a kick in the bollocks is just around the corner but don’t make out like Woolwich have suddenly become some super power again because, frankly, that’s ridiculous.

They have improved massively but that’s where it ends. Come back to me when they can be perennial winners.
 
Happy for Ange, happy things worked out for him, absolutely and completely glad to say he proved my prediction wrong and I will give him his dues (even though I give the highest percentage of praise to the players and their effort). I will say two things:
BRAVO and THANK YOU

Now pack your bags and get ready to leave mate. It's a win/win situation and we all move on happy.
 
CJJ said:
True, his record this season in the league is awful.
The matters in his favour are:
  • Won the UEFA Cup (or 'Europa League' if you will)
  • Got half way towards a League Cup final (in that he won the first semi)
  • Had a ton of injuries to key players (whether that's down to him or the absence of a medical team)
  • Fought strongly on four fronts
  • It is kind of normal to see teams have an awful league campaign when doing well in the Europa
  • The players are all 110% behind him
  • Did more for the young players than Poch (whose rep for that is baffling, considering he ruined a generation of the academy for us)
  • Didn't throw anyone else under the bus when things went badly
  • Is now on paper by far our most successful manager for 40 years (measuring successes and scales in terms of competitions won and rep of competition)
If he'd lost the dressing room, fair enough. Problem with another 'reset' (changing manager) is that we've done it a ton of times now and it just doesn't seem to push us on. We'll end up with another manager who wants another totally different squad and probably moans about players like Min-Hyeok and Vuskovic being someone else's players when they could be our next big exciting players.

The matters against him are:
  • Awful in the league
  • Has been very tactically naive outside of the latter stages of the Europa
  • Unlikely to do well in the CL based on his tactical approach and how it went with Celtic
  • Doesn't really seem to play in a way that suits Solanke, Son, and a number of other previously decent players
  • Hasn't got a catchphrase like "I always win the league in the 3rd season, mate" so may have jumped the shark
  • Paratici is unlikely to be a fan, so will be on thin ice
  • Our history of keeping managers for a new season despite league form is not grea

The most important thing for me is that the players are behind him, and his cup success might actually be more enticing to new signings than other options available to us. We are kind of back to the Poch era of 'fresh team' rather than the Jose era of 'established ready-to-win team', so it looks like a project anyway - I'm not really sure if it's the right conditions to do anything but give him the 3rd season he's arguably just earnt.
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His greatest asset is luck and it already happened. Luck runs out of time eventually.
 
SC resident ITK Trix says that barring a huge emotional u-turn after last night, Ange won't be our manager next season.

and that there will be totally different people involved in the football decision making from this summer onwards than there was this last year.
 
The Aussies are properly proud:



However I've felt about Ange this season, it's great to see us on top slot of one of their big rags. If he's going - and I do think it's the perfect time to bow out - I'm glad it's like this and not in a haze of shame.
 
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