Weve won the EL 3 times in our history. Only 1 team in the whole of football has won it more times. Woolwich and West Ham have won this trophy zero times and Chelsea only twice.
That suggets its hard to win.
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That suggets its hard to win.
Chelsea have only been in it twice since takeover and both times they won the thing. West Ham are fucking shit mate.
Woolwich are gonna Woolwich. They did get to a final but lost to a Hazard led Chelsea.
Thank Christ Paratici has Levy's ear and not you
Honestly, I’d rather stick with him to next season, but get rid quickly if it isn’t a promising start. I know you ideally don’t want a new manager after pre season and get off to a good start, and it’s also tough racing to find a manager mid season, so some would say do it now. But I think he deserves to have a go at it, I still have hope. But if there are not quick signs we are performing significantly better in the league than last year, get rid quick
I've never been fully in on the Paratici train but if he makes that decision I'll love and respect him for life.
A thank you note and a bullet to the head. Mafioso style, no being clouded by emotions.
One thing I would add to Ange's credit is that he wants to be here. He cares about the job and wants to continue - he believes that he can take us further. We've had problems before with managers who haven't been committed to the club and I think we will struggle to find another manager who will be as invested as Ange.
On the downside, I don't like the way he's reversed himself on the issue of winning a trophy at the expense of league form. When we went out of the Carabao Cup to Fulham last season, he said "Winning a cup and finishing 10th is not what we're about" and seemed to suggest that it wasn't a viable path to long-term success but now that we've won a cup and will finish 16th at best under his watch, it apparently is. I like the rationale that the players will improve now that they know what winning feels like but it still seems like a u-turn.
I'm going to leave the decision up to Levy. It's his responsibility and I certainly don't envy him the choice he has to make.
I'm assuming we're expecting something different from the list Paratici made last time, which famously included Gattuso and ended with Nuno (and as much as the final wasn't exactly a showpiece, the fact remains that we had more shots on target (1) than in the last 2 and a half hours of Nuno-ball)
Now to clarify, I'm not suggesting that I am campaigning for Ange to remain - I'm simply breaking down the reasons why I think it's likely he will.
All of the great PR and accomplishment of winning the EL will be shrouded in embarrassment and the same fans arguing for him to go will use his sacking as a stick to beat the club with when it suits.
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I'm watching this with a new perspective.
Btw, he was quite easy on the eye when he was younger, eh?
I know no-one should go shopping when they’re hungry: but maybe, just maybe he’s got a plan .
Fully understand dishing the league
( however much that pisses off the STH’s ) and going all out to win the Europa ( 17 / 41 ) AND get Champions League next year.
Maybe there is a method in his
apparent madness .
Just saying.
He doesn't have a plan. We ditched the league because we were dead in it. Because it was too hard for us to compete with other in form premier league teams. He decided a long time ago that going for a cup was "easier" than developing the consistency of a league team so we threw everything at them/it.
It's a hail mary which has paid off because the europa league is fundamentally weaker than the premier league. Both him and Amorim played the same card, the result was a crap-fest where both teams looked terribly coached but we won because we had that moment.
Sorry, but I'm not buying any of this "buy in to his philosophy" nonsense because he won a cup. If this was true Di Matteo would be a footballing genius.
Well Big Ange has won in his second season with us and a great deal of journalists out there are eating humble pie now. A few thousand of us fans too, do we stick or twist? That's up to Levy but we've been more of a Cup team over the years and if we continue to do that but hover near the top half and not be ridiculed by other fans for "Not winning things the Spursy way" then to a degree I'll be happy. I think Ange has actually done more than just win us a trophy he's stopped all that too at least for a number of seasons.
Will Levy give him a war chest and add a tough of experience to that squad? It's amazing how much qualifying for the Champions league will add in terms of revenue
Will Levy give him a war chest and add a tough of experience to that squad? It's amazing how much qualifying for the Champions league will add in terms of revenue
You may be right , you may be wrong;
But as an old poet once said
“ At a time of delectable enjoyment after such a prolonged and intense
suffering
Why be so ready to overly question that which brought it forth “
And that was said in the 3rd Century BC .
Have we learned nothing since ?
Aye, I couldn’t give a shite. We beat who we played. We won a big shiny thing. Lovely.
Anyway, not seen you on here in years. Hope life is good?
I can enjoy the trophy and not want Ange to stay. It's really easy to do that in fact.
If Southgate had won the Euros last time out I'd still want him gone because it was always pretty clear the coaching fundamentally wasn't very good. I feel the same way about Ange. It was never going to change based on this game.
I'm delighted we won, but my opinion is fixed. Have a great night.
He who’s mind cannot be changed limits his body’s opportunities for further adventures.
Chinese ; ancient era .
Good night to you too .
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